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In the latest round of the dispute between Elon Musk and Brazil’s top court, a senior judge has accused X of a “willful, illegal and persistent” effort to circumvent a court-ordered block – and imposed a fine of R$5m ($921,676) for each day the social network remains online.

The social media platform formerly known as Twitter, which has been banned by court order since 30 August, on Wednesday became accessible to many users in Brazil after an update that used cloud services offered by third parties, such as Cloudflare, Fastly and Edgeuno.

This allowed some Brazilian users to access X without the need for a VPN -- which is also prohibited in the country.

Late on Wednesday, X described its reappearance in Brazil as an "inadvertent and temporary service restoration to Brazilian users".

But the influential supreme court justice Alexandre de Moraes -- who ordered the original ban as part of an attempt to crack down on anti-democratic, far-right voices -- on Thursday described the move as a deliberate attempt "to circumvent the court's blocking order".

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[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)
[–] aiccount@monyet.cc -5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Hypotheticals are not bad. Thought expirements are not bad. Repeating things you hear from people just because they tell you to, that's bad.

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Hypotheticals and thought expirements can be used for valid purposes. But when you are using them to divert a conversation for the purposes of your personal agenda. To give a false impression of something that didn't happen. Then it becomes whataboutism. And given that you are not contributing anything to the discussion beyond whataboutism and insults. And being called out for it. I'd say you can stop trolling now. You're not convincing anybody.

And no that is not an echo chamber. That is people telling you what you are doing is wrong.

[–] aiccount@monyet.cc -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, except I have no agenda. I just find it interesting that people who act like a disgusting regime is somehow doing the lords work because they are shutting down millions of people from having discussions because people don't like musks' childish attitude. It's just that it is hip to see who can hate musk the most. X is a popular way to immediately get what you want out to millions of people. Some governments don't want people to openly discuss things, and siding with stopping discussion is disgusting.

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Except that is not what has happened here. X has refused to follow Brazilian law. And was given ample opportunity to remedy the situation. They refused.

There are plenty of other fora on the Internet. Banning Twitter will not stop discussion.

[–] aiccount@monyet.cc -1 points 1 month ago

It must be nice to have such an innocent view of the world. When powerful people stop average people from having conversations, it is not a good thing. It doesn't matter how much the internet tells you socialism and dictatorships are good, stopping discussion is bad.

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