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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (12 children)

Here's one reason for you to digest: hamas refuses to recognize Israel as a country and would rather Israel be totally destroyed than recognize it in some way to have peace.

You can't say Ukraine refuses to recognize russia as a country and it is a fact that Ukraine would stop fighting the moment all russians fuck off back to russia. Can you say hamas will stop fighting even if Israel finallt took its grubby hands off the West Bank and Gaza? hah, no.

There is also the other reason that russia is doing both the brutality of Israel and the unrestrained suicidal fanaticism of hamas on Ukraine. You can bothsides Israel-hamas to some extent, not Ukraine.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (6 children)

They say they accept the premise of the two state solution. You using the same logic of fear used to justify maintaining apartheid in south africa. People used to say if it's abolished black would take revenge on white people

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (5 children)

hamas? I gotta see this, where? I'll use google translate.

PS: nvm, I found this https://apnews.com/article/hamas-khalil-alhayya-qatar-ceasefire-1967-borders-4912532b11a9cec29464eab234045438 I wouldn't take it at face value, but it would help if true...at least this guy is still alive.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

But you trust israel wanting peace when everything indicate otherwise

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

If the countries around them hadn't invaded them like 7 times...yea...they'd have more goodwill and be less paranoid...now they don't even trust hamas to run Gaza, because they can't be sure they won't pull another Oct 7th stunt again with foreign help.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

People of the 3 Abrahamic religions was living side by side till zionists who lived in other part of the world. The colonial project couldn't happen without the british colonial power and the Nazi germany collaboration . Just check out the haavara agreement.

The first prime minister of Israel said this before arabs decided to block the zionism colonial project : “after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine"

Not to mention that gaza and the west bank wasn't colonized after the 1948 loss but during the six day war where arabs never intended to retaliate for their previous loss

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