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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 month ago (19 children)

I'll buy an electric car when

A) it won't spy on me and

B) I won't have to sign away my soul and first born to whatever car company I'm buying from

[–] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Buy one from China, The only people spying on you then will have a miniscule impact on you, ever.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

lol, I wouldn't bet on that. They wouldn't be spying on you if they didn't think they had something to gain. Just learn where the attenna or comm unit is and pull the wire/fuse. Check online for any electrical engineers who already disabled theirs.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Chinese car companies sell their data to anyone who will pay. Including American companies who then resell your data.. and so on. There are no protections and all your data is it out there

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for this or are you just making it up?

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I do. It's called embedded telematics. Here's the first Google result for it:

"Just like a smartphone, a vehicle that is equipped with embedded telematics has a cellular modem built into it right from the factory. This embedded telematics modem allows the car to connect to the cellular network and communicate with other internet-connected devices such as mobile phones."

But be very careful about information on disabling or modifying these things, most cars after 2018 will straight up no longer work if you disable them.

Unverifiable stuff, don't trust: I've seen the data first hand and worked with companies that provide services to "de-anonimize" the data produced through various systems to provide targetable consumer lists.

It'd take exactly zero effort to find your cars driving activity and when you (your cell phone) were in the car. And anyone with money can get it.

Is it "legal" probably not? Do corporations care? Absolutely not. Legal costs are nothing compared to be value this shit provides

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This doesn't say anything about selling the data to anyone who will pay.

All the car companies have mobile apps now, and the car needs some way to communicate with the app...

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