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[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

If we acted the same way it would reinforce their agenda. My comment blew up.

Update/Edit: if you think killing people is the answer to solving the world's problems then you are a fucking premtitive shitty human being and are a part of the problem.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I dunno. I've thought, for quite some time, that we'll lose because the only way to combat the far-right is to stoop to their levels and we, naturally, are to ethical to do so. I'm increasingly on the side of see-a-nazi-punch-a-nazi, although I'm horrified by violence and probably wouldn't have the courage to do so.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I hope you realize that you're falling right into the far-right playbook. This right here is their goal. Not sure if you're familiar with ProPublica's research but they seek to muddy the waters. The whole punch a nazi thing actually helps their recruitment. They turn around and go, "See? They're no better. They claim to preach these beliefs about a civil society and freedom of speech and not preemptively striking, yet here we are."

[–] brognak@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either way they lie and recruit the same. I'd much rather just punch the Nazis and anyone who sides with them.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In a way wouldn't we all. But this is clearly posturing anyway since I'm not seeing much in the way of nazi punching. For instance we saw how many nazis were in DC on January 6th or at Charlottesville, yet not much punching occurred.

Either way there are better ways to undermine their goals.

[–] carbonated@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah because rational humans were at home being their non violent selves having no idea what was about to unfold. How stupid are you?

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That just helps prove my point. One side is just not violent to begin with and to expect to beat violence with violence from a group unwilling to stoop to such a level themselves is absurd. Either way there are better ways to solving the problem. Nobody is going out "punching nazis" as much as it may feel cathartic to say. That will literally just land you in prison and feed their cause.

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