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[–] Buttons@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They didn't copy Pokemon, they created new content that is similar to Pokemon.

Do you believe it is wrong to create new content that is very similar to existing content that people enjoy?

Is it wrong for Pocket Pair (Palworld's creator) to create new content that is similar to existing Pokemon? Is it wrong for GameFreak to create new content that is similar to existing Pokemon? Morally speaking, why are the answers to those questions different?

[–] moonleay 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] TwitchingCheese@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, I remember this controversy when the game launched. That person later admitted to modifying the meshes to make them fit better because they hated Palworld for "glorifying animal abuse".

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/modder-who-accussed-palworld-of-using-3d-models-from-pokemon-games-admits-that-he-has-faked-everything/

[–] moonleay 0 points 3 months ago

The article, which you provided does not make sense.

They quote the user in question, with text and link to their tweet and then have the link to the "confession" as just text, not clickable. Opening the link results in an error. Looking at the link though, you can see, that this was not even posted by the user in question.

You can see, who posted the post, which you are linking, in the url. This is a post from the user in question for example.

The provided evidence links to a (now apparently deleted) tweet from another user instead.

You are right about the user speaking out because of the animal abuse though. (source)

And they did scale the mashes (source), but only to make them comparable, because the different engines of these games work differently and have different scales. They did not edit them in other ways.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee -2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If you can't see how blatant it is, I don't know what to tell you. You can be all "it's just SIMILAR wink wink" all you want. Similar is a fucking understatement.

[–] Buttons@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Okay. You don't like the word "similar" I guess. What word would you use?

It is certainly not the same.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Pokemon concept and ideas are heavily borrowed already. It is pretty idiotic to pretend they created anything. Instead they copied a bunch of Japanese culture and now want to prevent others from doing the same.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Have you played Pokémon and PalWorld? One is a pit-fighter-trainer where the other is a base-builder. Or does the capturing of creatures and the similar art style make them too much alike?

In a truly competitive capitalist market there should be room enough for both. But Nintendo wants their players to be obligated to own only Nintendo approved products.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Have you? The monster designs, some of them are straight up copycats and pallette swaps and such. Others are basically that "ok copy my homework, but don't make it identical so we don't get in trouble.". It is absolutely pushing the limits. To say you do not see that is willful. It has to be.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So Nintendo is suing them over the monster design similarities? I thought it was a patent suit, not copyright.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whatever. I can talk about whatever I want.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, but I'm curious what Nintendo is talking to the courts about, or if this is merely a weaponization of litigation.