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After the arrest of Pavel Durov, I wanted to move from Telegram to something end-to-end encrypted. I know Signal is pretty good, but I think it is better to have our messages in my own server.

I have already looked in XMPP, but it required SSL certs and I did not have the mood to configure them.

Do you know any other selfhosted messaging service for a group of 4-5 friends, or an easy way to configure an XMPP server? Or shall I use Signal after all (I don't really care that much about being selfhosted, I just thought it would be more privacy friendly)?

UPDATE: I managed to set up an XMPP server using prosody with the SSL certs. We have been testing it with my friend and it seems to go well.

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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Most people use either Matrix or XMPP. Both work.

There is a nice overview of chat protocols here: https://www.messenger-matrix.de/

I mostly use matrix as of today. I think it's alright. It's a bit difficult to explain encryption and device verification to other people... I think that could be designed better. But apart from that it works very well. So does XMPP which I've used before that. Have a look at the messenger matrix and all the options before deciding on an ecosystem. I'd take one of the friends and do some evaluation before dragging the whole group in. You can do that with some pre-existing servers before learning how to host the server part.

And btw: With most of them you can just use some public servers. You should do that unless you're willing to put in the effort to maintain an own server. That'd give you complete control over the infrastructure... But it's also a liability to maintain a server, do the updates etc for a group of friends and maybe years to come... End to end encryption will keep the content of your messages private, anyways. (If you use it.)