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BYD would still have the cheapest EV in the US, even with a 100% tariff (electrek.co)
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Even with the new 100% tariff on electric vehicles imported from China, BYD would still have the cheapest EV in the US. According to a new report, BYD’s lowest-priced EV would still undercut all US automakers at under $25,000.

After discontinuing the production of vehicles powered entirely by internal combustion engines in March 2022, BYD has been at the forefront of the industry’s shift to EVs.

Honestly in my opinion it is time to remove all tariffs on EVs under 25k and let anyone who wants to fill that slot in. American car manufacturers refuse to fill the market need.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Continuing to build coal plants in 2024 isn't just "pretending you're better".

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Liquid natural gas production in the US and Canada is rapidly increasing, and although the carbon emissions of burning it are lower than that of coal, methane leakage in the extraction and supply process is a huge problem. Methane is 40x worse as a greenhouse gas compared to carbon dioxide.

The only methane leakage numbers that are reported are opt in and self reported. As little as single digit % losses put the environmental impact of natural gas at higher than coal. The self reported numbers are very close to this figure. Many places aren't reporting. Detecting leakage is a very hard problem requiring very expensive equipment all over the supply chain.

In addition, we're building special infrastructure in the form of pipelines, refineries, special cargo ships, and special ports to ship LNG overseas. We're calling it a "bridge fuel" while renewables catch up, but these are decades long projects that are in progress.

Both could be doing better, but China is putting their innovation and money into solar and EVs, and we're putting ours into different fossil fuels.

Give up your blind nationalism and do some research.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can accept that the US is doing bad things. Can you accept that China is doing bad things?

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago

My thesis is that China is doing better. 50th in the world compared to 60th isn't a celebration of their success.

China scores extra points because they make literally everything we all consume.

Can you concern yourself with how to do more instead of whataboutism?

We should celebrate China subsidizing BYD and solar technology

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago

Here: a fun way for you to learn more https://youtu.be/K2oL4SFwkkw?si=I0_Q7qsW19H0Xg52

Maybe you'll trust an American academic's comedy climate channel over me.