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I was alive for 9/11 and I don't know the difference.
I don't care for politics.
Your sphere of control should match your sphere of concern; and neither of those things are what you think they are.
You think politics are in my control in any way, shape, or form? They've gerrymandered my vote to irrelevance.
I still vote, I look at the platforms and vote for whomever I feel serves my interests the most, not that the party's platform means jack or shit. They're all just pandering to whatever they know you want to hear, and once they get into power, they do whatever the hell they want.
My district leans a particular way, and whether I vote with them, or against them, the same party is elected to govern. I'd say my vote is pretty useless in that context.
I was too young to vote, pre-9/11, and had even less interest in politics than I do now. I've vaguely followed along since I got registered to vote when I got old enough to do so, but it's not like learning about what happened before I was registered to vote will help me in any way. I make the best choice based on the information that is available, and in the end, it doesn't even matter.
Could anyone persuade you to vote on what's better for most people instead of what's better for yourself? Maybe it's the same policies maybe not.
I usually want whatever is best for the majority. I'm done college, and I paid my student loans, I'll vote for student loan forgiveness and a restructuring of that system so others don't have to go through what I did.
I'm pretty healthy and rarely need hospitals but universal healthcare is something that everyone should have.
I would also vote for UBI, though I would get no benefit from it, as I've been employed pretty much non-stop since I left college.
I would also vote to raise the minimum wage, though my salary is significantly amount the minimums.
My principles are in line with what most people would consider to be the greater good for all people. I believe in true equality, and I don't feel like that's what we have, some people just aren't given the same basic rights, especially in America with roe v. Wade being overturned. Bodily autonomy and the right to love, and marry whomever you want. I don't believe in lowering the bar to give the illusion of things being "fair", eg, allowing people who are otherwise mentally or physically incapable of doing a job, to do the job just because they're a particular race, gender, or something else (making it more about who they are than whether they're the best fit for a job).
I don't think I need any convincing to vote for what's good for someone else.
Agreed, we are like minded in many ways. Thanks for the kind and long response. I believe your earlier comments were being taken by myself and others as fuck everyone I'll get/I've got mine. Sorry I don't mince words at the moment.
No apology needed. No offense taken.
I know that text replies, especially terse ones can be interpreted in many ways. Often I tend to be rather verbose to get my point across accurately. Some then complain about the verbosity of my replies.
It's a struggle to find the right amount of terse while being verbose enough to not be misunderstood.
Not at least understanding the difference seems irresponsible.
Who needs an informed electorate anyway?
Why? How does knowing how politics worked before I could vote, help me as a voter today?
I understand enough about politics to cast my vote and beyond the act of voting, I generally don't follow politics. I vote based on party platforms (what they intend to do) and the likelihood of those things happening. Eg, if a party was to say that they'll make everyone rich, I would consider that statement to be delusional, unrealistic and not something that could be fulfilled even if that party was voted in. This is an extreme example, but I think you get my meaning.
Beyond doing my due diligence in figuring out who I want to vote for, and then voting for that party.... What else do I realistically need?
My district always elects the same party anyways, whether I vote for them or not. I've landed in a gerrymandered location and that party basically always wins, but I still vote regardless.
IMO, I shouldn't need to take a political history course to be considered to be a responsible voter.