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[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The down votes say it all. This shit is why its hard to get men onto the left.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This shit is why its hard to get men onto the left.

Exactly. You have one side that doesn't give a shit about men's issues and demonizes them for it and the other side that also doesn't give a shit about men's issues but gives the occasional lip service or pretends to listen on occasion.

Neither is a good choice, but one is not openly hostile, and that makes it easy to fall that way.

And it's worse because nonone is asking for a lot. Listening to men won't set us back fifty years. It would actually bring more men into the leftist fold. But of course that is not what it's about to them.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

I went to college in the 80’s. I had a history teacher explain to me how the Civil War and Jim Crow were not about gaining economic advantage from subjugation of free labor, but rather white men keeping white women in their place by demonizing black men.

I needed an A, and I got one. I told her what she wanted to hear. Not proud of that, but not ashamed either.

That crap was allowed to fester because it was only a few crazy people. Then it grew enough to spawn the likes of Trump.

I recommend this excellent book, “Jesus and John Wayne” by Kristin Du Mez who brings receipts for the argument that disaffected people were looking for a Trump to show up. (She is an evangelical who is not a fan of autocracy)

All this to say, you are correct.