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[–] piefedderatedd@piefed.social 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Are you blaming your economical misery completely on me and on the EU and not at all on Orban ?

[–] bali10050@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm not blaming it on you or the eu, I'm just saying that saying or thinking things like „Kick them out of the EU. Good riddance!” would only result in an absolute dictatorship and the suffering of almost 10 million people in the long term. I hate the hungarian government too, but kicking them out from the eu would only affect the people, and the same assholes would be sitting in throne, but instead of having some people at least trying to make them lean in the right direction, they would happily abuse their powers without the fear of losing anything

[–] piefedderatedd@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I’m just saying that saying or thinking things like „Kick them out of the EU. Good riddance!” would only result in an absolute dictatorship and the suffering of almost 10 million people in the long term.
I hate the hungarian government too, but kicking them out from the eu would only affect the people, and the same assholes would be sitting in throne, but instead of having some people at least trying to make them lean in the right direction, they would happily abuse their powers without the fear of losing anything

I see your point. Thanks for elaborating.

Having said that I'd like to add that one of my annoyances about Orban lately is the change regarding
Russians and Belarussians. Which means these people can easily go further into Europe. Unrelated to this Germany picked up border control again (Besides their border control with Czech Republic which they already had). We're living in a troubled world and in very difficult times.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240809085816/https://verfassungsblog.de/could-hungary-be-suspended-from-schengen/

[–] bali10050@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

He actually had a really big change in attitude towards russians, back when the sovjetunion was a thing and there were russian military stationed in the country, he was one of the main people telling them to go back home. But it seems it's a situation where they went from haters to lovers, or something like that

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