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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As always, the problem with commuter trains is the last mile. If you work in the city, there is probably some form of bus or subway, but if you work in an unwalkable suburb, you'll need an Uber for that last mile which cuts into the benefit.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

surely you can bike 2 miles in the burbs? One of the upsides of suburbs being so painfully sprawly is that barely anyone lives there, so you shouldn't have a tremendous amount of traffic on those 2 miles to the train station.

And even if you'd fear for your life biking there now, it's not like you need to build bike paths along every little residential street to fix it, start with the largest most high-traffic roads and build your way down until people feel safe biking to the train station.

[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Sure, but then you have to carry your bike with you on the train. There is no workable solution to suburbia that doesn't involve cars because it was designed and built around them. Unfortunately, they're now home to tens of millions of people, and any quick solution would most likely end up hurting a lot of them.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

just park the bike???

y'all keep inventing problems that don't exist.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, you can leave a bike at the bike garage near the station or rent one on a monthly basis. That's what they do in Japan.

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

does not work in the US. bike theft is too easy.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem is the unwalkable suburb that doesn't make any sense. It never made sense either.

It's not only bad for commuting. It's a mess for groundwater, pollution of all type (noise, microplastics, air, etc.) It has an impact on the wildlife including reproduction, on plants, etc.

It's just a bad use of space? No, it's bad socially by isolating people. It creates urban traps. I will stop here otherwise I will continue on the fact it's a myth created by the capital...