All of the top 20 instances ask feedback from their communities before defederating. They know that if they don't, people will switch instances in two clicks.

[–] mke@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This isn't an absolute rule. Of course they don't (and shouldn't) ask for feedback before cutting off Nazi instances, but it's not always so clear.

.world defederated from fosstodon and I'm still unsure why.

[–] Blaze 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

.world defederated from fosstodon and I’m still unsure why.

Have you asked on !support@lemmy.world ? Could be spam issues too

[–] mke@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

No, thanks for suggesting. I saw a thread by other curious users and checked fediseer. Might be an admin issue, but I didn't see clear evidence.

Don't think it was spam as, unless I'm misunderstanding, that seems unlikely from fosstodon.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Most people won't switch though, they won't want to lose their username, their feed and so on, we're creatures of habits...

Hell, trolls could go around and recreate accounts on the top 100 instances with the same username users have on other instances to prevent them from reusing the same username elsewhere, just that is a weird concept to explain "Oh yeah, someone else can create an account and pretend to be you and unless people notice that the instance they're from isn't the same, there's no way to know it isn't you!"

You're sending users to Lemmy.ee but in the end it's an instance controlled by one person paying the hosting fees and with the last word on what goes on on their server.

[–] Blaze 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (50 children)

Most people won’t switch though, they won’t want to lose their username, their feed and so on, we’re creatures of habits…

You can keep your username, export and import your subscriptions and block list in two clicks from the settings.

Hell, trolls could go around and recreate accounts on the top 100 instances with the same username users have on other instances to prevent them from reusing the same username elsewhere, just that is a weird concept to explain “Oh yeah, someone else can create an account and pretend to be you and unless people notice that the instance they’re from isn’t the same, there’s no way to know it isn’t you!”

"You are bob@gmail.com, but someone could create bob@outlook.com and pretend to be you"

Also, this kind of impersonating would probably get the trolls banned.

You’re sending users to Lemmy.we but in the end it’s an instance controlled by one person paying the hosting fees and with the last word on what goes on on their server.

Lemm.ee had 5 admins. The main one has been very clear that he keeps defederation to a minimum: https://lemm.ee/post/35472386?scrollToComments=true

Of course you need to trust him and his team.

If you prefer a paid model where you have a customer relationship with the admin, you might to have a look at https://communick.com/services/lemmy/

The owner is @rglullis@communick.news , who commented below

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[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Hell, trolls could go around and recreate accounts on the top 100 instances with the same username users have on other instances to prevent them from reusing the same username elsewhere, just that is a weird concept to explain

Yes but that doesn't mean you should get automatic dibs on a name everywhere. It's just a name. If you are Joe Bill at lemm.ee, that does not give you any rights over the name Joe Bill all across the world. Statistically speaking, there's at least 18 thousand other Joe Bills around at this very moment.

Like, this is something that is already solved by the instance's moderators.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I always point new users to Lemm.ee nowadays.

Most people are not interested in moderating their own feed. Leading people to an instance that does very little moderation on the defederation side of things could push them away. In that situation, they are likely to just leave the fediverse altogether and less likely to go to another instance I would say. I respect lemm.ee as an instance but I would not recommend it as a "gateway drug" to the fediverse.

[–] Blaze 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The issue is that

LW is too big
SJW has a non neutral name
Lemmy.ca advertised itself as Canadian
Feddit.org has a meta community in German

There is Lemmy.zip, but they are also very light on defederation. Lemmy.dbzer0 blocks lemmygrad but still federates with hexbear

Do you have any other suggestion?

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yea... I get what you mean. There isn't really an instance that is "not zero defederation"-moderated and general enough for all people if you take out lemmy.world. That's honestly kind of surprising, it feels like a niche that more players could fill. But I guess that's how lemmy.world got as big as it did.

If you had to give one suggestion, maybe. But still, any instance matching geographical location or a specific of your interest would be better.

[–] Blaze 1 points 1 month ago

If you had to give one suggestion, maybe. But still, any instance matching geographical location or a specific of your interest would be better.

Indeed, but the thing is generally, people just one want URL, and that's it.

Latest example to date: https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1fe87g5/map_of_2000_lemmy_communities/

You'll see a comment on how to join Lemmy, in this kind of scenario I just give one link