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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Hamas deserve no sympathy - but most Palestinians are just people, like the Israelis, living under a regime that heavily peddles dehumanizing propaganda. If we had no sympathy for the Israelis because of the Palestinians intentionally killed by their hands, we'd be going down the same route that's currently locking the two sides into a fucking pointless race towards genocide, that Israel seems likely to 'win'.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's a bit more complicated than 'if you're not hamas you're automatically innocent'

Majority of Gaza has supported Hamas for decades and will likely continue to do so.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the same vein, the majority of Israelis have supported the occupation and genocide of Palestine, and will continue to do so.

It's not about being 'innocent'. That's how these blood feuds perpetuate themselves. We have to accept that, going forward, mere tribalist support for one atrocity or another is not enough to continue pursuing this pointless blood feud. We couldn't in-good-conscience hang every Nazi after WW2, and Nazi civilians were far more deserving of the noose than the civilian populations of Gaza or Israel.

We cannot justify the murder of Israeli or Gazan civilians under the guise that they hold hate in their hearts or support a shitty side in this shitty conflict. We must narrow those who deserve retribution to the actual criminals, not the propagandized and struggling masses.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I think what the ICC is doing is good—calling for the arrest of both leaders. Neither are budging though.