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Why YAML sucks? (programming.dev)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by heikkiket@programming.dev to c/programming@programming.dev

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I feel that Yaml sucks. I understand the need for such markup language but I think it sucks. Somehow it's clunky to use. Can you explain why?

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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 61 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yes, I think so. The downside with Python comes when refactoring the code. There’s always this double checking if the code is correctly indented after the refactor. Sometimes small mistakes creep in.

It’s really hard to tell when Python code is incorrectly indented. It’s often still valid Python code, but you can’t tell if it’s wrong unless you know the intention of the code.

In order languages it’s always obvious when code is incorrectly indented. There’s no ambiguity.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

I think this is just familiarity. I never have issues with indentation, but when refactoring js I'm always like hey who's fucking brace is this

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It’s only hard to tell indentation in Python when the code block gets longer than about a screen, which is usually a sign the code should be refactored into smaller methods.

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 months ago

They hated him because he spoke the truth

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

As someone who has been working in Python a ton for the last couple years, it’s amusing to me how many downvotes you’re getting for simply noting that good code style and tight, terse, modularized implementation of business logic more or less addresses the issue. Because it absolutely does in the vast majority of cases.

[–] hex@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

People hate hearing that they are bad coders 😂

You and the other guy are saying to focus on writing code with less indentation and using smaller methods, and you both got downvoted.

I fully agree, small methods all the way, and when that's not possible it's time to refactor into possibility!

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Or a sign you should get a bigger screen 😂 (j/k)

[–] Kache@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Can address it by writing code that doesn't depend much on indentation, which also makes code more linear and easier to follow.

[–] poinck@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Yes, totally agree, and it applies to formats and language syntaxes even if braces are used.