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[–] davel@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The discussion is about why progress has gone backwards on societal acceptance.

A primary reason that progress is going backwards in many capitalist states is because fascism is on the rise in those states.

Why is fascism on the rise? Is it a meme that just randomly started spreading throughout the imperial core, for no particular reason? No, there is a material basis for it: it is because capitalism is in decay in those states. And fascism doesn’t simply run on vibes: fascist movements are funded by the wealthy, by billionaire oligarchs like Elon Musk and by people who own car dealerships & restaurant franchises. Trumpism: It’s Coming From the Suburbs

Specifically in the US, there is also the ratchet effect, which has been causing politics on the whole to lurch ever more rightward.

And it doesn’t take a Marxist to see what’s going on. Chris Hedges is a liberal who saw it coming 14 years ago in Death of the Liberal Class, long before Trump entered politics.

In any case your answer to the question was, “good intentioned politicians making deals with homophobic devils so to speak in order to save other people.” I don’t think that is a very good answer at all.

  • Who are these figurative devils?
  • What about them is devilish, and why are they they like that? What is their motivation?
  • What “other people” are they saving, and what are they being saved from?
  • Why do these devils have enough power over “good intentioned” politicians to change the course of history?
  • What makes you think the politicians have good intentions in the first place?