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[–] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, it's worse than that. That's the DOJ's excuse for refusing to indict the traitorous influencers themselves and only going after their Russian handlers.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There needs to be a law against what they did before they could be indicted for anything. Afaik there is no law against being a foreign propagandist.

Even the two handlers themselves would have been fully legal if they had simply registered as foreign agents.

Our first amendment protects these things, for better or for worse. It protects the right to lobby the government (petition for redress in the official language), with no bar to people doing it on behalf of foreign governments, which is why all we do is make them register under FARA for transparency. We've lived under this legal system through the whole Cold War.

Speech is similarly protected, even if it is at the behest of foreign governments.

Our first amendment protects lies and propaganda just the same as everything else, which is why any of us can still go look at RT right now if we wanted. If we can't even ban RT with all the sanctions we have on Russia right now, how the hell are we supposed to go after these American citizens?

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act

They still need to register under FARA though. Also you can't claim ignorance if you're actively trying to hide evidence like saying it was for phones instead of salary:

"Those shell companies initially received their funding from RT, and the subsequent payouts to Tenet were shielded not as salary payments but for electronic merchandise such as “BUYING GOODS-INV.013-IPHONE 15 PRO MAX 512GB.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/secret-russian-influence-campaign-paid-10m-to-prop-up-right-wing-us-commentators-indictment/ar-AA1q1aqk

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’m sure the DOJ could make a crime stick if they really wanted to. But, do they really want to?

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, maybe something obscure I guess. They're not exactly black or anything though.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Merrick Garland has been the GQPs best friend the last 4 years. Hopefully Harris wins. Hopefully she'll replace his stodgy ass with someone who cares about applying the law to everyone.