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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Its not a strawman, that would imply no one was actually advocating for feeding cats a vegan diet, and this post was made up to pretend they did in order to disparage vegans. This post is a reference to someone on Lemmy arguing in favor of vegan diets for cats, and the thread you linked is literally people advocating for and discussing vegan diets for cats.

That being said, if you read the comments you'll see vegan folks arguing that this is a difficult thing to safely do in practice, and needs oversight and direction from a vet.

Making decisions to feed your pets, who can't advocate for themselves, things other than what they biologically evolved process as a healthy diet, even if you believe you've balanced everything just right, is morally questionable.

Making such a decision about your own diet on moral grounds is an admirable sacrifice and difficult lifestyle change one can be proud of. Choosing to make that sacrifice on behalf of a creature you're responsible for the health and happiness of is needlessly jeopardizing the wellbeing of that creature. They can't communicate their needs, and you're the one responsible for them. Don't go making questionable choices on their behalf that they'd be powerless to do anything about.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

One point, we already make the decision for our pets diet. You are already supposed to consult a vet or nutritionist if you care about ensuring the animal is healthy, vegan food or not.

Its not a moral decision for the cat in this case anyways, its in service of their health first and foremost. If the cat can't be healthy on a vegan diet, or just simply doesn't like it, then a vegan will look for the next best thing that could be the healthiest fit for their pet, and see how it goes.

Conversely, plenty of non vegan owners will buy whatever random food is sold in their box store, do zero research past a facebook/reddit corporate circle jerk, and then pat themselves on the back for being such great owners.

The simple fact that vegans are involving pet nutritionists should be a clue as to their priorities. You could also simply ask your vet about it, just like I did, and find out that they won't accuse you of animal abuse.

[–] tromars 7 points 2 months ago

So it’s immoral to force your will on a cat regarding their diet when they themselves would choose different is immoral but forcing your will on cows/pigs by killing them even though they would choose to live is not?

Cats, like humans, need certain nutrients (macro and micro), they don’t need that nutrients from a specific source. Of course a healthy vegan diet needs effort and monitoring to ensure sufficient intake of these nutrients, but it’s certainly possible, both for humans and cats.