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[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Did I miss something in France? Last i checked the center and left-leaning parties formed an alliance to keep the right wing out of power.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The left alliance doesn't have the numbers to govern on their own, and Macron (the liberals) would rather join forces with conservatives.

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Do you have a source or examples? I haven't heard anything about the french situation since the left and the liberals actually formed a coalition to stop the FP from winning.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago

The most voted party in the wide front coalition is LFI, earning more votes than Macron's party. Macron is refusing so far to name a president from the LFI, for the first time in the history of the 5th republic of France.

[–] Cyanocobalamin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

The Nouveau Front Populaire got 193 seats out of 577 at the national assembly. Despite winning the election, it's not enough to have an absolute majority. As for their alliance with the libs, it was just to prevent the fascist from gaining more seats (actuallyjust a matter of saving face for the presidential party), the libs had no will to take their alliance further than that, and were very clear about their unwillingness to accept any government proposed by NFP. Besides, when the dust settled, the "socialists" resumed their courting of the right, further weakening NFP.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The left leaning parties are liberals and the center are fascists, they're keeping real leftists out. None of the "left wing" parties in France are trying to start a revolution in the streets to take power. They're all too happy sitting there, just being in power... It's pathetic.

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's nothing new, but it's better than the center courting the literal neo fascist party which they are not doing.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I literally just told you how the comic applies.

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Let me rephrase, the comic is incorrect in regard to the situation in France. The center and left are not courting the actual fascists in government. The center made a coalition with the leftists.

[–] Cyanocobalamin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No they're right. The French Overton window may not be as fucked as the USian's, but their standard reformist left parties are still considered as filthy extremists while their center, Macron's party, is actually borderline fascistic.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

That's blatantly wrong. There is a tradition in France for all parties to ally to prevent the fascists from accessing power, but that's only an election alliance. It barely worked for the last election : the left does vote against the fascists every time, but some liberals refused to stand back in favor of some left candidates, and liberal voters largely refused to vote for the left because of the anti-left propaganda. This lead to the fascists making a third of the assemblé nationale.

Now the president must choose a prime minister, but the left arrived first, and he refuses to let them get the power. So he waits for anyone to accept an alliance with the liberals which is not happening yet.

Predictions are going that he will end choosing a PM that is fascist compatible rather than letting the left have any power in the executive.

[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I am a french living in France, when did the center made a coalition with the leftists ? What are talking about ?? The center coalition has spent the last 7 years claiming "the left is just as bad as the fascist if not worse".

Did I miss a recent news ?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shh, this is a lefty circle jerk thread.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You lost buddy? You need a grown-up?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm kidding of course. The average lefty can't find enough other lefties they agree with to make a circle jerk.