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[–] TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 133 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Even if Blizzard games haven't had a high note since 2016, I would like to remind everyone that the company still had absurd amounts of goodwill and customer loyalty for a large and corporate studio at the time, with fans owning and actively collecting literal decades of merchendise.

Things only really truly collapsed for Blizzard and saw their goodwill vanish when they openly supported and endorsed the chinese oppression of Hong Kong.

Specifically, the winner of a Hearthstone tournament was interviewed after his win and gave the pro-Hong Kong slogan "free Hong Kong, the revolution of our times", which there was absolutely no rule or stipulation against. China demanded that the company not endorse that (because authoritarianism), but Blizzard ACTIVELY WENT THE EXTRA MILE to strip the player of his prize money and ban him from all future events alongside other punishments, specifically in the name of appeasing the chinese government.

It wouldn't be fair to expect a game company to singlehandedly stand up to an authoritarian regime that loves to make people disappear. But it is absolutely fair to recognize that Blizzard's actions very clearly demonstrated that they weren't just doing this because they were threatened into it- they were more than happy to actively endorse the chinese government's oppression of Hong Kong. And THAT is what we should always remember about Blizzard's morals and principles, or lack thereof.

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's the event that gave me the push I needed to request deletion of my account with them. I won't give them another dollar for as long as I live.

[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same, was just starting wow classic with my partner as she'd never played wow before, that made us both cancel immediately and never give them another cent.

[–] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are a couple of VERY GOOD classic pservers out there which are not only better maintained than the Blizz servers, these have also much less bots and way healthier populations and economies.

[–] Tok0@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do you have any resources to share so that I could join one?

[–] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I can absolutely recommend Turtle WoW. It is such a good classic+ experience: imagine if there never were any of the wow addons but instead the base game got expanded in a meaningful and in terms of Warcraft 3 lore-friendly way. There are new and very well-done zones which were empty before. There are new items and professions without nullifying the existing ones, there are two new races and new race/class combos (to keep close to WC3 lore), there are new dungeons and raids, tons of new quests and a lot of quality of life improvements. You have many options to play how you want: restrict yourself on how much exp you get and play slow & steady, opt in for a built-in hardcore mode, activate warmode to be flagged for pvp or a combination of those. Also, pretty much all classes got rebalanced (some more than others, though) to make more builds viable without altering the game to much (more balance updates are in the roadmap). The dev team is very active and dedicated.

[–] BalooWasWahoo@links.hackliberty.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Crossing fingers that we get the answer. I would love a well-recommended classic server.

[–] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Look one comment above.

[–] gothic_lemons@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Same! Still kinda miss hearthstone but in the end it was just a game.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reminder that that event happened IN TAIWAN.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That makes it even more hilarious.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd forgotten all about that.

All the sex pests felt like a "good" reason to quit WoW but I'd say my real reason was it had become a piece of shit that didn't value my time, and I'd honestly been looking for a reason to quit for a long time.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The removed a bunch of portals from WoW in order to "make the world feel big" (make you waste more time traveling instead of doing fun things).

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I might just be too casual, but I remember that half the fun of WoW was traveling. Of course, I never got into raids or pvp anyway, I leveled up and did dungeons lol

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Travel (especially in older zones where you would be using portals) consists of:
Mount flying mount, point in the right direction, hit auto-run, wait.

Not really the most exciting game play experience when you've already flown over the area a dozen times before. Taxis are also just as bad. Other MMOs (Guldwars 2, FF14) have no problem with players teleporting directly to somewhere close to their destination. They already traveled their once, no need to force them to do it again.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Oh much of my playtime was in Azeroth during TBC, I didn't really have flying mounts lol

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

That's exactly where they lost me forever. Truly a despicable bunch of assholes.