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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Uhm...yeah. Everybody is against gender affirming surgery for minors.

Contrary to what right-wing media likes to claim, it doesn't happen.

What does happen for transgender youth is puberty blockers. That allows them to delay the hormonal changes of puberty so that they may make an easier physical transition, if they so choose, when they are an adult. In the meantime, trans girls can more easily tuck and won't develop a 5 o'clock shadow or deep voice, trans boys will not be growing breasts or menstruating, and both retain more a more gender-ambiguous frame.

But puberty blockers have other uses besides gender-affirming care, and they've long been proven incredibly safe and non-permanent.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While I can see that early intervention with puberty blockers would help transgirls, it seems like transboys would need to take something more than just testosterone to get the height growth, once they reach the age of majority. HGH, maybe?

It's interesting how much of the language around anti-trans rights centers around 'men pretending to be women, and they entirely forget about transmen.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

I'm not a doctor, but my laymen understanding is that it doesn't stop puberty, it just delays it. So they end up going through a normal puberty, just at a later age.

[–] Anomaline@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Literally nobody is performing gender-affirming surgery on minors. It's difficult enough to get as an adult lmao

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ever heard of Project 2025?

It calls for barring transgender people from the military and to stop what it considers the “toxic normalization of transgenderism” across the government and American society. It seeks to abolish the president’s Gender Policy Council, “which it views as promoting abortion and the ‘new woke gender ideology,’”

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

its already happening my dude.

child labour is already legalized in many states queer rights are slowly being eroded away already.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and this is all because of republican footholds in those states and the supreme court. If that happened during a democrat presidency, then what do you think would happen with a republican presidency?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think they're vastly less than perfect and I don't want any of this for Americans but I want outright fascism less.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are we seriously using this as a wedge between one candidate or the other? I'd love to have full trans rights here like any other reasonable country but if the alternative is authoritarianism 2016 but with an actual plan this time then I'm not going to complain if I don't get everything I want.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

not a wedge. no wedge to be had if the current administration is already undermining it.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so you're part of the all or nothing crowd. I'm glad the worst election year is being deluded by people that see things as only black or white. That is, if you're not a troll. Either way, you're doing Russia's job for them and splintering the left further.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

and you are part of the nothing or nothing crowd.

i live somewhere with free healthcare and i cant believe anything less than that is acceptable and normalized to you, let alone the cruel system you have rn. but please tell me how cruelty and genocide is worth defending so hard.