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Signal Is More Than Encrypted Messaging. Under Meredith Whittaker, It’s Out to Prove Surveillance Capitalism Wrong (www.wired.com)

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[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Those clients exist despite Signal Foundation, not because they encourage community development. They are doing everything they can to discourage third party app development.

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are doing everything they can to discourage third party app development.

I'd say you're moving the goalpost. Other than the hostility the founder showed towards LibreSignal nearly 10 years ago now, can you source any evidence to support your claim?

[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lots of red flags here in Github: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/9044

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That link, and I could be missing it, has nothing to do with what I claimed. Mind editing your post and quoting a red flag linked at the source you provided?

[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some of my favourite red flags:

Signal's dependence on Google libraries: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/9044#issuecomment-535194837

Signal dev bullshitting a non-answer and then hilariously refuting his non-answer: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/9044#issuecomment-534340623

Signal hiding its serverside source code for many months: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/11101

You can find many more examples.

The last one about server side code, together with Signal's funding sources and their obsession with phone numbers code leads me to suspect that Signal is just a honeypot by US intelligence.

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Those clients exist despite Signal Foundation, not because they encourage community development. They are doing everything they can to discourage third party app development.

That was your original claim. None of the sources you provided back up your original claim. We can talk about Google libraries or the delay in server side code if you want to go down that path, but that's a completely different discussion. Why are you pivoting to other topics? Will you concede your original point or do you have evidence to back it up?