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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 1 September 2024 (awful.systems)
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[–] mii@awful.systems 17 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I love it when I randomly get a DM from some dude on Reddit because of a post I made six months ago mansplaining to me why I'm wrong about clowning on AI doomsters.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 15 points 3 months ago

"HPMoR is canon - fact"

[–] aio@awful.systems 14 points 3 months ago

the moon could get mad - fact.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

'the fact is they are right about some things'

Yes, which is a thing we agree on, as Rationalwiki says "The good bits are not original and the original bits are not good", problem is that none of the things mentioned before their last statement hold up. We don't know 1 is possible. (Also note that 1 isn't just 1, but actually 5+ points).

Anyway unhinged reddit DM's are always something.

e: eurgh, looked into their post history. They are into making AI porn games. Also they are quite dumb., yes lets ask the magical AI if a thing is true. Ah turns out it told me that OpenAI is the greatest company in the world and there have been no controversies ever. (They also have some opinions about jewish people and trans people in the sinfest subreddit)

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's a weird place to have some opinions about jewish and trans people. I like to look at the sinfest subreddit every now and then and that sub really likes to sneer at people who have weird opinions on those topics (such as the author of the titular webcomic).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 3 months ago

It seems a bit of a contrarian sinfest defender. Which causes them to mention some iffy things. Which the r/sinfest admins then delete after downvotes it seems.

[–] khalid_salad@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago

"we are likely... fact" is just a special kind of stupid

[–] imadabouzu@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh man, anyone who runs on such existential maximalism has such infinite power to state things as if their conclusion has only one possible meaning.

How about invoking Monkey Paw -- what if every statement is true but just not in the way they think.

  1. A perfect memory which is infinitely copyable and scaleable is possible. And it's called, all the things in nature in sum.
  2. In fact, we're already there today, because it is, quite literally the sum of nature. The question for tomorrow is, "so like, what else is possible?"
  3. And it might not even have to try or do anything at all, especially if we don't bother to save ourselves from ecological disaster.
  4. What we don't know can literally be anything. That's why it's important not to project fantasy, but to conserve of the fragile beauty of what you have, regardless of whether things will "one day fall apart". Death and Taxes mate.

And yud can both one day technically right and whose interpretations today are dumb and worthy of mockery.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 3 months ago

A perfect memory which is infinitely copyable and scaleable is possible. And it’s called, all the things in nature in sum.

A map is not the territory, but every territory is, in a sense, a map of itself.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Writing "fact" after a statement doesn't magically make it one, bub

[–] self@awful.systems 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

my mental voice for the DM sender keeps switching between “board game store inhabitant who spent way too much on warhammer shit and noticed you’re 3D printing your miniatures” and “flat earth convention keynote speaker” but it’s Reddit so a cursory investigation might reveal they’re both

  1. Only this $25 box of space marines can be used in sanctioned tournaments and therefore you can’t possibly derive enjoyment from your resin miniatures (is that a squad of tiny masters chief?) - fact.
  2. You can’t prove that the earth is round because you’ve never seen it curve - fact.
  3. What do you mean you’re not here to listen to me talk? I’m not moving so you can play with your masters chief (and is that — are you going to make them fight Gandalf?) - fact.
  4. The mere fact that the terrain on the board game table I’m not letting you use is flat and has an edge proves me right - fact.
[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 11 points 3 months ago

I just enjoy that masters chief is like attorneys general.

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Do you think tiny master chief is a Flat Ringer? Like if he's so smol, maybe it's hard for him to see the curve (fact)

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago

My mental voice for DM guy is Augustus St. Cloud from Venture Bros.

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
  1. What if being perfectly copyable is actually like, idk, a huge disadvantage? If this AI is a program in machine code, being able to be run exactly by its human adversaries allows them to perfectly predict how the AI responds in any situation.
  2. kek
  3. Tell us more about the elusive will of programs :) Also just love,love,love the idea that by being able to run computations faster it's game over for humankind. Much like how 0 IQ Corona virus/mosquitos/and small pox stood no chance against our Monkey Brain super intelligence.
  4. Fellas, it's been 0 days since Rationalist have reinvented the halting problem.