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[–] bouh@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure most people think robocop or starship troopers is fantasy and as removed from their reality as lord of the ring for example.

A feature of indoctrination is that you don't see it on yourself.

[–] vala@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LOTR is absolutely political IMO.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but not as directly as sci-fi can be. We won't ally with elves to fight orcs in the foreseeable future. We won't talk to ents or ask a wizard for help. Fantasy is metaphorical in essence. Sci-fi is descriptive, realistic. Yet people still treat it as fantasy.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We won’t ally with elves to fight orcs in the foreseeable future.

Mhh... maybe not elves, but there is a current war that is often compared to fighting against orcs & Mordor. Although, I do not think dehumanizing even Russian soldiers is a good idea.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but nobody in the US will imagine the right is the orcs.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

oh those people. That's maybe a bit harsh, even to orcs - although maybe not entirely inaccurate as orcs are basically the offspring of elves tortured for eternity. And I guess the political right often appears full of inner conflicts and contradictions, and trying to blame others for feeling miserable as a result of the weird values they pretend to follow.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure RoboCop fits here. About the time ED-209 blows through that guy, I'm pretty sure everybody sees the corruption there. And you do spend the whole movie feeling bad for Alex and his family and you're actively rooting for him to exact revenge.

RoboCops old enough, I'm not sure most people newer than Gen X have even seen it.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People do see how bad it is in the movie. What I'm saying is that people do not believe anything in their reality is comparable. When I say that people see it as fantasy, I mean that they see it as an imaginary world with nothing comparable in their own world.