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"Giving people more viable alternatives to driving means more people will choose not to drive, so there will be fewer cars on the road, reducing traffic for drivers."

Concise, easy to understand, and accurate. I have used it at least a dozen times and it is remarkable how well it works.

Also—

"A bus is about twice as long as a car so it only needs to have four to six passengers on board to be more efficient than two cars."

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[–] mayo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A lot of people choose not to live in the city with good transit because housing is too expensive, so they live in the 'burbs. All that extra money means they can get a fancy new car lease. They drive into the city and because cars are allowed everywhere 24/7 there is no reason for them to look for alternatives in high traffic zones.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you ever considered that for many people not living in the city this "extra money" simply does not exist?

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm convinced that everyone else on Lemmy is so poor that purchasing the device they use to access this site was one of the worst financial decisions available to them.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

The median house price in the US is >$400,000. Rent around here for a 2bd is 2500, and I don't even live in a place with mass transit.

Unless you're buying a new phone every month, it's not affecting your ability to buy a house or rent an apartment in a city.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That’s the old way. There’s no real difference in pricing now until you move into the exurbs. For more and more people it’s better to pay a bit more and not have to commute while having easy access to the city’s amenities.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A "bit" more? Have you seen rent levels in the last few decades?

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Rent must be incredibly affordable in the US from what I'm reading here.

[–] AceSLive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I live in Melbourne, Australia - and I couldn't afford anything within an hours drive of the city.