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[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oh, I wasn't saying those two were the only ones. Just that over nearly a century of them being a big producer of refined fuel, and synthetic fertilizer, there really haven't been enough explosions to warrant the "times per year" comment. This is also only one, out of many, places like this, and none of them, at least that there is public record for, have a whole lot of bad things happening. Unfortunately, the occasional leak of toxic chemicals, explosions due to mishandling of fuels, etc. is something that can't be avoided if the modern world is to continue working. This is why regulatory bodies, and enforcement of safety, and procedural, laws are important. In the big picture though, hydrogen isn't particularly dangerous.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

nearly a century of them being a big producer of refined fuel, and synthetic fertilizer, there really haven’t been enough explosions to warrant the “times per year” comment.

Idk what the "minimum number of catastrophic accidents" would qualify. But more minor accidents in Texas City are routine. You just found the two historic ones.

Like saying you Googled Biggest Hurricanes In Texas and only came back with Harvey and The Great Galveston Hurricane, so why is everyone complaining? That's just two in a century.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I am not just talking about catastrophic incidents, in that I mean to say the ones that killed people, and devastated the facility it was in. I looked up data with the BSEE, FERC, and PHMSA. There are little leaks of hydrogen that are considered the most minor hazard a several times a year yes. But the amount of incidents when it goes from potential, to actual, are not frequent enough to be rated in times per year. I was considering situations like where it just lit then went out, or created an environment that could suffocate someone, etc. Beyond that, most of these hazards are not from hydrogen, but other materials.

What it boils down to, is that hydrogen is no more dangerous than other chemicals, we commonly use, that can be explosive.