this post was submitted on 24 Aug 2024
86 points (98.9% liked)

Electric Vehicles

3225 readers
159 users here now

A community for the sharing of links, news, and discussion related to Electric Vehicles.

Rules

  1. No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, casteism, speciesism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
  2. Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here.
  3. No self-promotion
  4. No irrelevant content. All posts must be relevant and related to plug-in electric vehicles — BEVs or PHEVs.
  5. No trolling
  6. Policy, not politics. Submissions and comments about effective policymaking are allowed and encouraged in the community, however conversations and submissions about parties, politicians, and those devolving into general tribalism will be removed.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Recently, there’s been some bad news out of Detroit. Ford’s backing off on some upcoming EV models, including a three-row SUV many had been looking forward to, and will instead be focusing more on hybrids. GM has been having different problems with software, recently laying off 1,000 developers after a string of Silicon Valley types failed to acclimate to more traditional corporate culture.

While these companies would like to have us all believe that making EVs and software for EVs is simply too hard, other companies like Tesla and Rivian have been doing a lot better. Tesla is now making more EVs than anybody, even beating out ICE models in some segments. Rivian is still climbing the profit ladder, but is selling software to Volkswagen, a pretty good sign that “legacy auto” is struggling in odd ways while newcomers are having no problem churning out EVs.

So, we need to ask ourselves why these established players are struggling while newcomers are doing just fine.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You must not have read my entire comment. The neat thing about vehicles is, if you don't like one don't buy it, but then don't complain nobody wants to buy your crap.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

'Kay. Now explain why Ford's Q2 sales increased...

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Kay, Ford sales improved by 1%, 5% was their trucks. They sold a total of 23,957 EVs. To put it in perspective, Tesla sold 443,956 EVs. Tesla sales are down because Elon is an asshat.

I'll say it again, make something people want to buy.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We're talking EVs. Go look at their EV numbers and the improvement percentage.

Tesla sales are down because Elon is an asshat.

Tesla sales are down because the market for shitboxes is saturated and customers figured out they were the mark in the con.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Improvement percentage doesn't mean much when you sold 24k EVs compared to 443k.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

That's not what the Tesla weirdos said when Tesla increased sales by large percentages. If you eat your cake, you can't have it too.