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What was the first record of Homophobia (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by RavenofDespair@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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And did they spread this hate?

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Do you mean from a historical standpoint? It depends on the culture, but it's pretty recent in its current iteration — in the west, it followed the rise of Christianity. For much of western history at least, it was considered OK to pitch, within reason (manly!) but not to catch (effeminate!). Warring states China was pretty similar. I'm less familiar with India but in any case that would have been suppressed by the Mughals.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It was in Zoroastrian tradition around the time Persia was conquering Greece. Definitely not a "Christian thing".

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Leviticus' proscription of homosexuality in the Torah predates Grecco-Persian wars

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is debate though over whether that was referring to homosexuality or age gap violations.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination". It sounds pretty clear to me and at best could be proscribing both male homosexuality and pedersasty in one statement.

Edit: but ofc I do not know what the og scroll says nor would I be equipped to translate it or debate the true meaning of it.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oh. I was thinking of the other one.

[–] RavenofDespair@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks I thinking if Christianity was the main reason Homophobia or was there many smaller sources

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And yet Thailand has had numerous genders for centuries(?). I was reading about it it’s fascinating they have a third classification with numerous sub-gender types such as Kathoey, Tom, Dee, Tom-Dee, Tom-Gay, and many more.

It’s fascinating. Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identities_in_Thailand