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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Language is an imperfect medium with inherent limitations, intended to convey thoughts from the mind of one person to another. Thus, context is critical. The tragedy of humans not being telepathic.

A large portion of this argument is between two factions trying to have a complex discussion regarding at least four different things using only two words; male and female. The discussion however expands to biology, stereotypes, gender norms, rights, etc.

To me, everyone arguing is a moron for trying to have a discussion without first agreeing on axioms and vocabulary. Male and female are not enough words for a discussion involving this many variables.

It's like, hey, please reconcile general relativity, quantum mechanics, and metaphysics using only X and Y. It just screams absurdity.

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You might want to look at Wittgenstein.

In his early work he went hard on this approach, and insisted that "hey philosophy is dumb", just agree on the definitions and then chase through the implications.

In his later work he realised that this is impossible. Words have contextual meaning that is revealed by their usage and you can't nail down full and complete definitions in advance.

What you're talking about absolutely can and will never work. We have tried it and seen it fail.

[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The general point is that the "what is a woman" question is still word games rather than an honest attempt at finding truth and understanding

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