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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 99 points 3 weeks ago (36 children)

Nobody likes these fucks in the giant trucks. I run a condo and those trucks stick out about 2 feet into the driveway and fit tightly on the wide side. We started banning them and it pissed off a few rednecks, but if you buy a car that literally doesn't fit in your parking spot, that's your problem.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

Yeah, I require a large truck for work. I haul a large trailer and work rural. If I didn't need it, I wouldn't blow money on it. I park out of the way on principle, and pretty much don't bother with downtown areas anymore, sadly. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

ok so i want to pick your brain here. What would be the most effective way to prevent these idiots from buying these large trucks, but still allowing these larger trucks on the market for the few rare instances where people actually need them.

I've had a few thoughts, notably just making smaller trucks alongside these larger trucks, they're going to be a lot cheaper and more efficient so market forces should do quite a bit of work there. Aside from there, i've considered just selling super duties and deleting the normal line, probably just leaving the duallies in all honesty. I've also considered just yeeting the bed and throwing a fifth wheel there as a standard feature, making it impractical for anything other than hauling heavy trailers.

Outside of this, i'm not sure, but i'm also not convinced most people that use these trucks even need them in the first place, even if they're doing work.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

may I propose periodically inspecting and auditing if the subject needs the truck and if not they are shot on the spot?

Or, for a serious answer: ban them but not the trucks like those used in Europe (have same or better bed length but look uglier). Make trucks back into work vehicles instead of status symbols. And firebomb GM.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

either one of these would work, i'm more curious as to what market forces would need to be manipulated to make it a thing.

Maybe we just have to wait for new EV manufacturers to pop up making a small truck. It would actually benefit them as well.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

market forces trend towards using people's fragile masculinity to sell them big truck to make money.

The only way we can get these shitstains out of our society is to completely and violently maim said free market with an axe.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i doubt it. Market forces trend towards selling cheap products with high margins, which smaller vehicles would easily fit the bill for.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Then car companies wouldn't be making bigger and bigger cars

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yeah, and it seems to be mostly because of regulations surrounding wheelbase and emissions. I think it's a secondary market effect where people are buying them because its the only real option.

If we were to restrict or remove them, and fix the apparent issue with regulations, i would imagine people would go back to buying smaller cars as they're cheaper and more economical.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's not the only real option tho. First of all a vast majority of those buying big trucks and cars don't need a truck and aren't hauling shit, they are buying them for a status symbol, second of all vehicles that are legal in Europe, with their stricter safety standards etc, are legal in the US, you can buy the smaller vehicles I'm talking about in the US or other places, they are available, yet market forces still push towards the shittier massive vehicles, because it makes more money to market these vehicles to insecure men.

It’s not the only real option tho. First of all a vast majority of those buying big trucks and cars don’t need a truck and aren’t hauling shit, they are buying them for a status symbol

that's not what most truck owners say, but maybe they're coping hard. The second technicality here would be vehicle safety, but these vehicles are obviously more dangerous, so maybe they should be or are more expensive to insure than the average vehicle because of that.

second of all vehicles that are legal in Europe, with their stricter safety standards etc, are legal in the US, you can buy the smaller vehicles I’m talking about in the US or other places,

obviously, but this is discounting the native American auto manufacturing which the US generally has a massive boner for, both it's people and the government, people still buy euro cars, but unless they manufactured domestically like subaru for example, they're going to be more expensive.

yet market forces still push towards the shittier massive vehicles, because it makes more money to market these vehicles to insecure men.

this specifically is the companies wanting to sell more larger trucks with more features, as it makes them a bigger margin. There's a massive slog in new vehicle purchases at the moment as they car market is normalizing post covid. It's possible they'll pick up later, it's possible they won't it's hard to tell.

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