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[โ€“] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay, so you're just a crazy person. Got it.

Pro-tip: This sounds as fucking bonkers as that Sovereign Citizen shit, man. Get a fucking grip.

[โ€“] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

This sounds as fucking bonkers as that Sovereign Citizen shit, man

When I was a kid I was interested in stoic philosophy and astrophysics and history and justice. With that context Sovereign Citizens seem worth utmost respect, and I'll explain why:

All people have direct knowledge and discourses, narratives, opinions of things they've never seen and tested.

There are plenty of situations in life where other people tell you that you have obligations you hadn't taken, or that you must obey someone to whom you haven't sworn fealty, or that you must believe something that hadn't been proven to you, or that inconsistent "right" is consistent because look at that stick, or that what's yours is not just because, and so on. Or that you must fear someone and keep your head down.

Yes, there are many situations when you must accept defeat, but you don't have to like it, like in that Indiana Jones movie.

Sovereign Citizens and the like attempt to chain the state, the nation, the law to their direct knowledge, or at least make those make sense in some way other than "liking it".

It's like when an honest person has been wronged, they know this, but may consider it part of their dignity to still demand open explanation.

Now those laughing about SovCits or talking as if much is wrong with them - the direct opposite of a SovCit would be worse, don't you think? Of course moderation is better.

Which is why it's disgusting to ridicule such people.

I'm also partial to the medieval concept of god's fools.