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Ukraine attacks Moscow in one of largest ever drone strikes on Russian capital (www.reuters.com)

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Ukraine attacked Moscow on Wednesday with at least 11 drones that were shot down by air defences in what Russian officials called one of the biggest drone strikes on the capital since the war in Ukraine began in February 2022.

The war, largely a grinding artillery and drone battle across the fields, forests and villages of eastern Ukraine, escalated on Aug. 6 when Ukraine sent thousands of soldiers over the border into Russia's western Kursk region.

For months, Ukraine has also fought an increasingly damaging drone war against the refineries and airfields of Russia, the world's second largest oil exporter, though major drone attacks on the Moscow region - with a population of over 21 million - have been rarer.

Russia's defence ministry said its air defences destroyed a total of 45 drones over Russian territory, including 11 over the Moscow region, 23 over the border region of Bryansk, six over the Belgorod region, three over the Kaluga region and two over the Kursk region.

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online 52 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

With all this drone usage, why aren’t we seeing more smaller drone operations deeper into Russia? This seems like the perfect opportunity for a movie-like secret mission with a bag full of consumer drones strapped with explosives. A low flying drone swam can’t be that difficult to execute. Heck, they do it at Disneyland.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

I think you're vastly overestimating the damage possible from the explosive payload a tiny quadcopter can carry, unless your goal is strictly terrorism i.e. intentionally targeting civilians.

Civilians dying as collateral damage during an attack/assignation of a legitimate military target is one thing, targeting civilians is another.

And before you say Russia does, don't forget that Ukraine is dependent upon continued Western support, which is already fragile. It's doubtful that support would survive them explicitly targeting civilians with suicide drones deep inside Russia.

[+] Fades@lemmy.world -6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think you’re vastly overestimating the damage possible from the explosive payload a tiny quadcopter can carry

Um, actually YOU are the one that doesn't know what you're talking about.

Those 'tiny quadcopters' can drop much bigger payloads these days than just a grenade, and even then, the Ukrainians use far more than just quads.

This is from June 2023: https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/16/europe/ukraine-drone-night-strike-russia-intl-cmd/index.html

On site they prepare the drone – a large, Ukrainian-made quadcopter — and the explosive they are dropping on the Russian position. The device can carry a payload of up to 45 pounds, but this evening they’re making an improvised explosive – using a shell left behind by Russian forces when they pulled out of Kherson.

This is from December 2023: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/12/03/baba-yaga-is-a-giant-ukrainian-drone-that-drops-bombs-at-night/

Baba Yaga is a large Ukrainian hexacopter drone with an infrared camera and capacity for a 33-pound rocket warhead. The drone’s name is a reference to a mythical witch.

There are many such examples, many of them not so tiny.

Especially when they drop thermobaric payloads (April 2024): https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-kamikaze-drone-thermobaric-warhead-russia-video-1886910

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You put so much effort into that post, that I almost feel bad pointing out that you probably should have read the comment I was replying to... you know, the one above my comment.

But, if you're having a hard time locating it, I pasted the relevant quote that I was responding to:

"...opportunity for a movie-like secret mission with a bag full of consumer drones..."

But yeah, I guess if you completely ignore the actual text I was responding to, you might of had a fair point.

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