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[–] Psycoder@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I dont care who you vote for. It is very clear to me you will vote for Democrats. That is great.

I do care about who my aunt and her family votes for, a lot. She is democrat leaning. Her husband is republican leaning. They both believe the middle class is getting destroyed by politicians for the last 2 decades. They are both retired. They used to be middle/low income. These days they are clearly low income.

  • In 2004, they both voted for Bush.
  • In 2008, they both voted for Obama.
  • In 2012, they both voted for Obama.
  • In 2016, they both claimed to vote for Trump, although I believe my aunt might have voted for Hillary. (Uncle has military background. He kept saying if he did what Hillary did when he was in active duty, he would be in prison for the rest of his life.)
  • In 2020, they both voted for Biden.

For the last 2 years, they both are saying that they don't want to vote for Trump but Biden destroyed the economy for middle class. It was clear they might give Biden another shot if he managed to recover the economy before the election.

Ever since the debate, they both are dead set on voting for Trump. All I hear is "Of course the economy would be bad, he is senile." or any "Of course xyz would be bad, he is senile."

As I said, I don't care who you vote for. I care for the votes of people that have not decided whether to vote for Trump or Biden. In the debate, Biden lost a lot of them. Biden lost that debate, clearly! Saying "they both are senile" or "Trump lied during the debate" is damage control by Dems. If Dems insist on going forward with Biden, Trump will be president. I am sure of that.

Now you can say my aunt and her family are stupid. You can say I am stupid for not changing their minds. You can say Trump is an insurrectionist and we are all stupid. You can even say all of the Americans are stupid, it is your first amendment right. You can down-vote me to hell if it makes you feel good. None of these will change the fact that my aunt and her family will vote for Trump unless Dems change the candidate or Biden manages to shit rainbows and use it to gift a million dollars to my aunt's family.

At this point being a Biden apologist is the same thing as voting for Trump. Trump will win.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 5 points 4 months ago

Democrats will go down blaming the other Democrats that kept warning them of other centrist voters calling them Russian shills.

No sense of self blame and simply calling everyone else idiots cause they didn't see their idea of a perfect future that no one else was included on.

Apparently a whole party of "being right" is not a good way to get others to join you.