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Household vehicles were driven an average of 64.6 minutes on a typical day in 2022 (including all trips made that day) and parked for the remainder of the time (95%). Drivers in all Metropolitan Statistical Areas (MSAs) averaged between 61 minutes and 68 minutes per day with the longest driving time of 67.6 minutes for those in MSAs with 1-3 million people. Household vehicles being parked for 95% of a 24-hour day offers opportunity for EV charging.

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 20 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

While it is true cars are parked the vast majority of any typical day, the lack of charging infrastructure is the actual hurdle.

Many people with homes do not have garages or other locations with accessible outlets. Parking on the street is extremely common in dense neighborhoods.

Many people live in apartment complexes with either open parking lots or with sheltered spaces that don't have electricity.

Both can be solved with more infrastructure for charging and more EVs that can plug into regular outlets for slow charging.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Both can be solved with more infrastructure for charging and more EVs that can plug into regular outlets for slow charging.

Level 1 charging (regular 120v house outlet) is underappreciated. Even for drivers that can only get 10%-25% charge added per day during parked times, that can be a game changer which would otherwise have them chasing Level 3 (DC fast chargers) at times when they'd really just like to be at home.

The most underappreciated charging in my opinion is Level 2 is NEMA 6-15. These are 240v lines with 15A. These use the exact same wire as the 120v 15A wall outlet. This means that if you only have your garage outlet for charging, you can simply swap a breaker on one end and the outlet on the other and make no changes to the wiring connecting them. While you may only get 3 miles per hour charging on a 120v 15A outlet, that same wire can give you 11 miles per hour just by switching it to 240v. Thats almost triple the charging speed and for many would mean all of their charging needs are met at home without any new wiring being run!

[–] Kadaj21@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don’t have the capability to use a level 2 charger at my home, but with my current work schedule, I’m fine with level 1. I’ll usually start charging for the week for a Tues commute on Sunday, and use that charge the rest the week as I only go in two days a week (thankfully). Around town trips hardly impact range as they're typically only a few miles round trip.

If I have to go in more often then I might have to use a DCFC, and while thats about 3x the cost of charging at home, its still $12-$15 in my area depending on charge level and is 15-20min max time. If the charger is at a gas station or area with amenities then usually by the time I’m done doing whatever (food/restroom/browsing) it’s about done.

For my situation it’s been working pretty well!

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm pretty much in the same boat, but I charge pretty much every other day since I have a 35 kw leaf and drive minimum 30 miles a day, but it can nearly fully charge over night. I actually purchased a charger that has an adjustable power output to charge slower at night, for various reasons. I go to a fast charger maybe once a month for a quick boost since I don't have 240v set up at home yet (I'm lazy and it works fine, it's hard to justify getting it installed when it costs <$50 a year at a public charger for those boosts).

I'm not sure if it's all that much better for the battery to charge slower than the full level 1, but my battery has been sitting at ~75% capacity since I bought it used a few years ago and I've put about 30,000 miles on it since then.

[–] Kadaj21@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I drive 20 miles each way twice a week for work so the 180-200 miles at 80% is plenty for the normal week with my id.4. I think thats pretty expected range for my 3yo car, lol.

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