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Religious Cringe

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This is the official Lemmy for the r/ReligiousCringe***** subreddit. This is a community about poking fun at the religious fundamentalist's who take their religion a little bit too far. Here you will find religious content that is so outrageous and so cringeworthy that even someone who is mildly religious will cringe.

Rules

  1. All posts must contain religious cringe. All posts must be made from a religious person or must be showcasing some kind of religious bigotry. The only exception to this is rule 2

  2. Material about religious bigots made by non-bigots is only allowed from Friday-Sunday EST. In an effort to keep this community on the topic of religious cringe and bigotry we have decide to limit stuff like atheist memes to only the weekends.

  3. No direct links to religious cringe. To prevent religious bigots from getting our clicks and views directs links to religious cringe are not allowed. If you must a post a screenshot of the site or use archive.ph. If it is a YouTube video please use a YouTube frontend like Piped or Invidious

  4. No Proselytizing. Proselytizing is defined as trying to convert someone to a particular religion or certain world view. Doing so will get you banned.

  5. Spammers and Trolls will be instantly banned. No exceptions.

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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Could you please cite the part of the Wikipedia article that supports your point? I looked through it and couldn't identify it.

It seems to me that you're arguing from a linguistic point of view, and missing the forest for the trees. Again I pose my question - are animals that existed before humans non-human?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

What you're asking has no relevance to positions of belief. It has relevance to physical things. These aren't isms.

Did humanism exist before humans? No.

Did non-human things exist before humans? Yes.

If you're saying atheism is a lack of theism, that's fine—loosely. But it will be confusing to other people if you don't clarify that stance. people with English as secondary language, other atheists or theists, people that delve into atheism, or people that are curious about how their stance fits in etc.

Deism is without theism, that doesn't make it atheism. The article is quite clear. Being a position of belief is indicated by the ism. The part before it defines the position of belief. Whether disbelief/lack of belief of the gods, or belief in no gods. It is not being without the belief of the belief in gods. That's just anything that's without theism which is soooo many things.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Deism is without theism, that doesn't make it atheism. The article is quite clear. Being a position of belief is indicated by the ism. The part before it defines the position of belief. Whether disbelief/lack of belief of the gods, or belief in no gods. It is not being without the belief of the belief in gods.

Now please clearly explain the difference between the position "no belief in gods" and "no belief in gods because the concept doesn't yet exist". That's what your entire position hinges on, and you haven't given any arguments for it.

Also, the article is quite clear in not supporting your position. It says:

-ism (/-ˌɪzəm/) is a suffix in many English words, originally derived from the Ancient Greek suffix -ισμός (-ismós), and reached English through the Latin -ismus, and the French -isme.[1] It means "taking side with" or "imitation of", and is often used to describe philosophies, theories, religions, social movements, artistic movements, lifestyles,[2] and behaviors.[3] It is typically added to nouns.

No mention of requirements regarding pre-existing concepts or anything similar.