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[–] Soulcreator@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As someone who went through the NY public school system many years ago, I can confirm hats were/are hard banned. Like unless it was for religious reasons you really couldn't even think about putting something on your head.

Cell phones were also banned in my youth but I guess times have changed?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh yes, but by the school. Not the law. We have elected positions specifically for figuring out how schools should teach children. Also top down negative mandates about clothes are already borderline abuses of power. We want laws preventing admins from going overboard, not mega bans in state law.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The research showing the impact of cellphones during class outweighs an individual's opinion. This has nothing to do with fashion and can't be compared to hats or locker decorations.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's no different than sleeping through class or just doodling and ignoring the teacher. If the kid can't not have their phone out then they get banished to the back of the class. If they play noise they get sent to the office, just like disruptive kids in every generation.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s no different than sleeping through class or just doodling and ignoring the teacher.

And there you have it folks, doodling is the same as these social media apps designed to be addictive that also lead to all kinds of bullying and social anxieties and harassment.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, you think banning smartphones at school is going to stop cyber bullying? Because bullies infamously follow the rules and kids are at school 24/7?

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

You said it was the same as doodling. I responded to that. All that other stuff you added was just fabricated in your own head.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The research showing the impact of cellphones during class outweighs an individual’s opinion.

More broadly, any kind of in-class interruption can hurt academic performance. This same logic has been applied to dress codes, speech constraints (most famously Bong Hits for Jesus), and behavioral edicts.

But this wack-a-mole strategy of prohibitions isn't championed because it is particularly effective. There's always some new distraction in the classroom you can chase after next. The strategy is championed because its cheap. Banning cell phones has very little budgeted cost as a public policy. By contrast, reducing class sizes and providing more hands-on learning opportunities and hiring/retaining highly educated teachers has an enormous price tag.

Nevermind which strategy has a proven history of increased student performance. We just need to keep locking enormous pools of children in tiny windowless classrooms and throwing increasingly byzantine standardized tests at them, then chasing any student who produces a "distraction" from this mind-numbing educational policy.