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When your local chain restaurant/fast food joint starts going off-menu to entice people to come in, you know a business is struggling. Seeing Churros on the menu in a Mexican establishment is perfectly normal. Seeing Churros on the Subway menu is a bit alarming.
I think it's pretty clear the Subway execs (or the executives of their parent/holding company) foresee a recession and are doing as much profit-taking as possible while there's still time before the big crash hits and everybody tightens up their budgets.
Nah I think it’s far more that they’ve developed a reputation as cheap, everywhere, and mediocre then they raised the prices massively. I don’t know anyone who thinks “you know what I’m craving? Subway”. They used to have other niches but sub shops are common and I can get a better vegetarian option elsewhere and for cheaper.
I don’t think they can pull out of this tailspin unless they slash prices to the bone
Subway spent a long time and a lot of marketing money training their customers that a sandwich should cost $5 and taste fine. Not great, but fine. But then the doubled the cost and halved the quality. They spent years teaching customers to avoid the sandwich they now serve.
Little Caesars had a similar problem, but instead of doubling the price, they raised it $1. Cheap pizza for $5 is fine, and cheap pizza for $6 still feels fine.
My local Little Caesars sells the basic pizzas for $9.97 now. Crazy Bread went from $1.99 to $4.99.
Dang, really? Hot n ready's are $6.50 here
Absolutely.
Look all around you and what you see in pretty much all domains is large corporations wringing every drop of brand value they can from accumulated customer brand awareness and loyalty, from enshittification of pretty much everything Internet and of electronics from brands which were previously seen as a good quality-price balance, to forced subscriptions (hi, Adobe) and even as in this case, store chains with well known brands in everything from consumer goods to fast food pushing prices up and/or quantity and quality low.
Sure, for many if not most this will trash those companies' brands, but as the C-suite at those places have been taught in their MBAs, "by the time it blows up, I'll be long gone and laughing all the way to the bank to visit all that money I made from bonuses and a golden umbrella"
Yeah they seem to think of “brand value” as loyalty akin to what people feel for a local sports team, and some brands do have that “hometown favorite” value. I know my hometown brand of potato chips definitely does taste like home. But also, they need to be thinking of it in a term that business ghouls can understand: professional reputation.
The organization of subway has a bad professional reputation. Its customers are unimpressed by its services in their transactions with it, they feel it offers a bad value proposition.
Businesses have gotten accustomed to the brand treadmill rather than just doing something well and being ok with the margins that provides. And if it isn’t an investment in growth a business should be able to reach that point where it finds stability and maintains it, providing stable profits.
I don't know anyone that has ever eaten at Subway and said "damn, that was really good". It's more of "eh, I'm not hungry anymore".
I absolutely love subway (not my favorite subs but definitely up there) the prices are just too high. They got greedy and it bit them in the ass
I sometimes crave subway, but I'm autistic and weird with food.
Some of that is just regional. Seeing churros on the menu at a Houston Subway isn't particularly alarming.
They have churros on my local subway menu, as well as a pizza, and a footlong pretzel stick.
We're in New England...
Subway has churros because the parent company owns auntie anne's
For me it isn't that churros are on the menu at Subway.
It's that RIDICULOUSLY FUCKING HUGE churros are on the menuy at Subway.
If you are eating a foot's worth of churro, you've eaten too much churro.
Meh it's a stick that's about a foot long and the diameter of a nickel.
Which is basically one big bar of sugar and carbs.
This is a fast food restaurant that serves sandwiches made out of entire loaves of bread.
I'm not saying Subway doesn't also offer way too much of everything else too, but churros were what we were talking about.
Subway offers too much of everything.
But I will say the veggie patties are pretty tasty. They don't attempt to replicate meat.