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Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4967

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[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone can stand up an instance though. So its available for anyone to look at right now.

I don't think it should be made easier, but I don't think its fair to suggest its currently private in any way, shape, or form today.

Because it is decidedly not.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Y'know, that's fair. I think I misspoke, and meant to say that the admins of your instance can see your IP but not the admins of another (assuming you're not self hosting on your home PC without a VPN), but I'm not 100% sure that's true because I've never looked at the protocol.

If every interaction is already public on the backend/API level, then simply not showing the info to users is just a transparency issue.

The more I'm thinking about this, the more I believe it's a cultural/expectations thing. On websites like Tumblr, all of your reblogs and likes are public info, but it's very up front about that. Social media like Facebook, IG, and sites like Discord, it's the same; you can look through the list of everyone who reacted.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As far as I know right now, IP and such details are your instance only.

Votes, however, are visible across any instance. I agree its a transparency issue. Right now I think a of of folks believe their votes to be anonymous (or only visible to their instance admins at most), but that's not true at all.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's really good to know, and not how I thought the system worked previously. I thought instances were responsible for all vote aggregation and simply reported totals to each other at regular intervals, plus submitting comments/edits from users which are more obviously public

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Yup, all visible. The only exceptions are fully private instances (or mostly private, with limited federation) and local only communities.

kbin/mbin also make all these votes public, so you could even just be on an mbin server and see all the votes. So right now its like... jumping over an 8" high hurdle. Or doing the limbo under a pole at 5'. You have to do something, just not much. I wouldn't call it completely non-trivial to do, but it isn't rocket surgery either.