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Why YSK: many countries have issues with weight, such as mine with 74% of US adults being overweight or obese. The global weight loss industry is over $200 billion yearly, with many influencers, pills, and surgeries promising quick results with little effort. These often come with side effects, or don't work long term.

Studies suggest filling yourself with foods low in caloric density and high in fiber, like fruits and vegetables, can help reach and maintain a healthy weight. It's good to have these foods available in our living spaces to make the choice easy. Your taste buds will likely adapt to love them if you're not there yet.

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[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 107 points 3 weeks ago (40 children)

Better: just learn to live with not feeling satiated all the time.

Not that you shouldn't make vegies a significant part of your diet, just that a big part of the lifestyle change is learning to be hungry between meals as a normal and non-distressing thing.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 84 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

That's a more complicated topic. Not everyone's endocrine system is wired the same way, and you can't always just willpower your way through it.

Insistence that willpower is sufficient for weight regulation is a big cause of people going on diet after diet that just doesn't work. They're fighting against the system that has a disproportionate influence on what you want in the first place, and if you push it too far you find yourself not giving a shit about your diet, and then being filled with a slew of complex feelings coming from your "lack of self control".

It's better to direct that energy towards getting your diet compositionally right than trying to be okay just being hungry.

You can't get your body to stop insisting it needs food, but you can get it to insist less often. You can teach it that it doesn't need "SUGAR", it needs water and maybe an apple or banana. You can give it a little solid protein between meals to keep it from asking for a continuous stream of carbs.
You can learn to identify the difference between eating because you're bored or want a little dopamine, and eating because you're hungry. The first one is your brain and you can willpower through it to eventually unlearn the habit.

You can choose to make good choices at the store instead of failing to make them in the kitchen.

Willpower is critical, but it's important to know what you can or cannot actually solve with it and work within that framework.
You're in control of your body, but that doesn't mean that you need to pick the harder path.

And, for some people, their endocrine system is a lot more forgiving. Those usually aren't the people who have a lot of trouble loosing or keeping off weight because they try to just "eat less" and it works.

[–] Shelena@feddit.nl 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for saying this. I think the idea that it is just willpower causes so much unnecessary suffering. As someone suffering from an eating disorder and thyroid disease, I was getting a bit down reading all the "it's just calories in vs calories out" remarks. It is so much more complicated than that.

[–] ripripripriprip@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

For many, many folk, it is simply cal in vs out.

If you've some condition that affects metabolism, then yes, that sort of advice is not the best.

[–] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think for most people it is not the best advice. In most cases, there are many other factors at play than just willpower and "calories in vs calories out". Obesity should be viewed and treated more like a disease, because it is. If you are interested, I can link you some interesting papers on this.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's calorie in/out in the thermodynamics sense, but humans are far too complicated to meaningfully model as a thermodynamic system.

Just doing calorie in/out dieting really doesn't work for most people. That's why you need to combine it with behavioral changes, strategies to change habits and attitudes towards food, which usually also involves changing what you eat and when so the downsides of eating less are less bothersome.

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