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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not really what I meant, but interesting.

That reminds me of the star wars missile defense system, which according to some stories was never real and just intended to make the Soviets waste a lot of resources on trying to counter it.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

from what i understand, it was real as in r&d was real, but not much came out of this. in regard to nukes, maybe this programme provided some new fancy sensors. one of the logical responses to things like SDI is to increase number of ICBMs and decoys, which is exactly what soviets did, it doesn't require developing similar ABM system. (nukes are ultimately tools of diplomacy, not really tools of war) of other things, we know that neutral particle beams work. some western weaponeers are toying with idea of high power lasers, but star wars era stuff were chemical lasers and what is used now are fiber lasers, so it's not directly transferable

also Teller was insane and x-ray lasers never worked

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

which according to some stories

this was cope, it was a defense funding scam

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps the same could be said of all ~~religions~~ of America.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"look, not everything is a defense funding scam"
"well that is"
....

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago

it funded some fundamental research, fine by me