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New GNOME dialog on the right:

Apple's dialog:

They say GNOME isn't a copy of macOS but with time it has been getting really close. I don't think this is a bad thing however they should just admit it and then put some real effort into cloning macOS instead of the crap they're making right now.

Here's the thing: Apple's design you'll find that they carefully included an extra margin between the "Don't Save" and "Cancel" buttons. This avoid accidental clicks on the wrong button so that people don't lose their work when they just want to click "Cancel".

So much for the GNOME, vision and their expert usability team :P

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (18 children)

Both designs are good imo. Adding the extra space for the "cancel" button could cause a copyright claim so I think that's a viable reason why it's absent in GNOME. And I don't see anything wrong in copying Apple design. They can do what they want and the new design is very nice in terms of ease of understanding and accessibility potentials. GNOME's workflow is similar to Apple's so why not copy some more things for better consistency?

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (13 children)

Both designs are good imo. Adding the extra space for the “cancel” button could cause a copyright claim

What ahaha since when a modal is copyrighted? I don't buy it, this is simply poor design by the GNOME team.

GNOME’s workflow is similar to Apple’s so why not copy some more things for better consistency?

Exactly my point, but they should learn how to properly copy things. Or at least think about them, Apple didn't add the margin for no reason.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (12 children)

I get it that you hate this design and its obvious strong inspiration by Apple but accusing GNOME team in being lazy is too much. They created the most popular and one of the most stable DEs on Linux and their own workflow that's similar to Apple's but still is unique. Also when I saw that new design, I was amazed. To me it looks really great. It's going to be a good update with accent color support (I won't fight about it ok?) for sure. It's just a matter of preference. Both designs are good enough technically imo.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

the most popular

Citation very much needed

one of the most stable DEs on Linux

Hardly, but I'm guessing you're thinking of reliability instead. Not really surprising when it's so stripped down that vanilla GNOME is pretty much unusable. When you extend it, in order to get a proper DE, that goes right out the window.

That fact makes it especially funny that vanilla GNOME is by far the fattest DE around. How it manages to use up more resources than KDE is beyond me.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Citation very much needed

Ubuntu, RHEL and Fedora use it as the default and they are very big distros. Idk if it's enough but that's what I know.

Hardly, but I'm guessing you're thinking of reliability instead.

Idk. KDE was unstable for me and it always has bugs after major releases. They should test things better.

Not really surprising when it's so stripped down that vanilla GNOME is pretty much unusable.

Personal opinion.

That fact makes it especially funny that vanilla GNOME is by far the fattest DE around.

Deepin.

How it manages to use up more resources than KDE is beyond me.

You have a point here. Qt is better in terms of efficiency afaik and performance is extremely important for an OS component. But hey at least it's getting better over time.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ubuntu, RHEL and Fedora use it as the default and they are very big distros. Idk if it's enough but that's what I know.

I mean, that's pretty irrelevant. If you were for example at least comparing the downloads of fedora Vs spins, that would be a beginning of something.

Idk. KDE was unstable for me and it always has bugs after major releases. They should test things better.

  1. In case it wasn't obvious: stability is not reliability

  2. So does GNOME, especially when you have a lot of extensions

  3. KDE is pretty crap in both regards

Personal opinion.

Is that why every distro comes with vanilla GNOME? Oh wait...

But hey at least it's getting better over time.

Meanwhile over the years KDE got lighter than GNOME while constantly piling on features.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

This is turning into a meaningless argument now. I don't want to continue.

[–] MrAlagos@feddit.it -1 points 4 months ago

How it manages to use up more resources than KDE is beyond me.

It can happen when you have to develop all your technology on your own instead of relying on the work of a hundred-million dollar company that does the heavy lifting for you.

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