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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 124 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Remember when people acted like Disney was great because they were fighting DeSantis on shit?

Billion dollar corporations aren't on our side even if they occasionally do things we like. Sometimes it's just two assholes and no one is the good guy.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 63 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They are just opportunists. Anything that benefits them is their policy. If being supportive of queer people makes them money, then that is what they do. If being racist were to make them money, then they would be racist. As long as they make money, corpos will support literal hitler without batting an eye.

[–] DeceasedPassenger@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

literal hitler

Speaking of which, it's always been this way. Walter disney got very friendly with German buearaucracy after the events of Kristallnacht, all because he wanted them to continue showing disney films.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

He was Nazi and antisemite adjacent at the very least. I'm not sure it played out like you described either

IN 1938, a month after the Nazi assault on German Jews known as Kristallnacht made headlines across the world, Walt Disney gave Hitler’s pet filmmaker, Leni Riefenstahl, a tour of his studio. He showed her some Mickey Mouse sketches, and she offered to show him “Olympia,” her cinematic slog through the 1936 Berlin Olympics. He turned her down because he was worried it would get out that he was playing host to a woman most of Hollywood shunned. In his biography “Leni” Steven Bach writes that when she returned to Germany, she praised Disney for receiving her, saying, it “was gratifying to learn how thoroughly proper Americans distance themselves from the smear campaigns of the Jews.”

https://archive.is/jQ2rY#selection-464.0-472.1

Also, definitely a racist.

And there is the fact that in 1938, a month after Kristallnacht, Disney personally welcomed Nazi director Leni Riefenstahl to his studios.

Even if he wasn’t personally anti-Semitic, Gabler allows that Disney “willingly, even enthusiastically, embraced [anti-Semites] and cast his fate with them.”

Gabler cites a meeting in which Disney referred to the Snow White dwarves as a “n***** pile” and another in which he used the term “pickaninny.” The book notes that Disney anticipated the Song of the South controversy and attempted to make it less racist with a rewrite and meeting with the NAACP. The meeting never happened, and the movie was released anyway. There was also some controversy about the company’s unwillingness to hire minorities at Disneyland.

https://www.vulture.com/2013/12/walt-disney-anti-semitism-racism-sexism-frozen-head.html

[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

Imagine if 2 or more things could be true at the same time!

  1. Disney is a giant evil corporation that has some extremely unsavory practices.

  2. DeSantis is a trash goblin

  3. People don't want Disney and the products it produces to be destroyed especially by the grimy hands of a trash goblin.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I remember people acting like it was great that DeSantis thought he could take on the Mouse, but I don't think anyone was fooled that Disney was on our side. More like when cartoonishly evil mayor tries to tame the monster that lives under the town and so it eats him for his hubris. See: Smug Snake Bullying the Dragon.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I never thought they were great but I was willing to watch DeSantis run straight into that wall.

[–] Glifted@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That was kind of a "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" type situation. I don't think most people were rooting for Disney to win, they just wanted to see Desantis lose

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago

🤔

I remember asking “is there any way they can both lose?”

Because you’re 100% correct. Billion/Trillion dollar companies care only about profit. If they do something we like it’s because they think that is a profitable move, in either the short or (much more rarely the long) term.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

If they burn each other to the ground, that's fine by me