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Trump is actually second-gen on his mother's side and third-gen on his father's side. Not that it really changes the message, but there's no reason to get the facts wrong in this.
Trump's mother was born in Scotland. She was a Scottish immigrant and her son is first-generation Scottish-American on her side.
I think the person above you is using the US Census Bureau definition of generations, which is that the first gen is the immigrant themselves, second gen their children. That's how I've always understood it.
Makes sense. Trump's mother was naturalized as an American citizen in 1942, and D. Trump was born in 1946, and by then his mother already called herself American. That would make her first-gen naturalized American in the eyes of the census, and D. Trump second gen given that he was born to a naturalized immigrant.
Technicalities aside, Donald Trump was born in America to a person that just a few years earlier called herself Scottish. He should certainly know about the prevalence of immigration in America, between his own Scottish and German background, and marrying immigrants himself.
Yeah, that's the only definition I ever knew.
Weirdly there are two. Both are correct. Regional difference.
For the non-US context, one might as well add "born in the country" after the "first generation".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrant_generations
Til
I am from a non-US context, the first generation is the first that came to the country here.
Well yeah, I didn't mean "all non-US context of immigrants", but the article especially mentions the US definition being so.
But that doesn't mean others can't also utilise that definition.
Honestly, I'm not sure who exactly does use the other one, but I know it's used enough to be acceptable in certain contexts somewhere