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Nights in Las Vegas Are Becoming Dangerously Hot (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it's crazy. It's almost like plopping down a big ass city in the middle of the fucking desert was a terrible idea. And then continuing to run it even while the climate dials up that latitude from char to incinerate.

[–] dingdongmetacarples@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Las Vegas grew out of being a train stop for water. Yes, water.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It was a necessity. Example: All the towns across the plains were spaced apart almost equidistant 5-7 miles as that was far each train could go before the locomotive needed water refills. Can't imagine how annoying it would be to ride those early trains.

It also begs the question, are all those towns, as they ghost away, necessary? They served a purpose once in the 1800s. People bemoan the loss of small town America, but a lot of it was literally to fuel the primitive railroads. Maybe some of them no longer have a purpose.

Back on topic, Las Vegas certainly doesn't.

[–] dingdongmetacarples@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

What purpose does any city serve?

The largest water reservoir in the US is a few miles away. A large air force base was built on the, then, out skirts of town, the nuclear testing site, and the magnesium plant in nearby Henderson. All of which helped the US in WWII. That's why Las Vegas isn't a ghost town. It's much more than gambling and debauchery. If that's all it took, then why isn't Pahrump (where prostitution is legal) a big city? What happened to Reno, which used to be the place to go party?

I think Lemmy users are incredibly ignorant of Las Vegas and should get a little bit of reading in before trashing my home town.

You also may want to let the 2 million plus residents know their city is not necessary.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

But ... but all that gambling money...