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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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Birthrates are plummeting worldwide. Can governments turn the tide? (www.theguardian.com)

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But why on earth? Rejoice, rather.

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 month ago (5 children)

You want kids? Raise wages significantly at this point. Put out some strong social safety nets.

My wife and I are mid-thirties trying to save for a house and retirement. A kid is not even close to an option for us.

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Unfortunately, what's probably going to happen is more taxes for people without children. It has already been considered by some parties here in czech, and it infuriates me. I'm also mostly sure that's what will happen, turning people without children to second class citizens they can leech more money from, with an excuse that they are not building our society enough. And you will get some lower-income, anti-work people spamming children even more, to abuse the benefits and support you get for them even more.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I read that trumps vice president candidate suggested that before too.

Does the tax go away after a certain age?

Like when peoples kids grow up do you start paying the tax again? What if you’re too old to have kids? Do you still need to pay the tax?

It’s a dumb idea, but it’s probably going to happen.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also what if your kid dies?

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

After posting, I wondered about people who are naturally infertile.

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