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[–] teft@lemmy.world 166 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (15 children)

Wait, so Obama is black because his father is black and now Harris isn't black even though her father is black? Do these idiots even hear themselves?

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 month ago (6 children)

That seems to be the general thrust, but I have seen a few not-so-bright sparks suggest that Jamaicans aren't really black.

I even saw one person suggest that the fact that she is descended from an Irish plantation owner means she can't be black. Which, gee, I wonder why a black person would be descended from a plantation owner?

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Are you sure it was an Irish plantation owner? Most of the time Irish people in the Caribbean were working on plantations, not owning them. From what I've read, the person in question was a British person from Antrim - which is on the island of Ireland, but is part of the UK and was itself "plantationed" by Britain.

It would be weird for example to refer to George Orwell as Indian, Louis Theroux as Singaporean or Duke Wellington as Irish - after all, "being born in a stable does not make one a horse" as the Duke put it when 'accused' of being Irish.

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