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It really feels like people hate on her way more than they should. Can someone explain to me where it's all coming from? I read some of her trans statements and honestly they weren't that bad. If feels too me like on a scale of 1 to 10, the hate should be at a 3, but it always seems to be at an 8 or 9. WTF?
This sarcasm? She literally call us "The Penised" and claims we're stealing all the womanhood.
"The mudbloods are stealing our magic!"
It's true, for every bra I own, ciswomen everywhere collectively own one bra less. For every estrogen pill I hope, testosterone starts to form in ciswomen... I actually kidnapped a TERF off the street and grafted my penis onto her in order to have my vaginoplasty!
(I am being VERY sarcastic)
Really? That's worth wishing she was dead? Who the fuck cares? Again, on a scale of 1-10, I think that rates a 2.
If you actually read her posts (the ones I read in 5 min of internet searching before I asked this question), her message is basically (paraphrasing) "I support trans people's rights to live as they want, but I value womanhood and take pride in my womanhood. As such, I want trans people to live as they want, but I want to keep the idea of womanhood separate because I value it as a space for women." I'm assuming she said something much worse somewhere else??? ... but that's really a fucking lame thing to base all this hate on. Really, there has to be something more, right? Right?
If that was what she was saying it'd be fine. You would likely need to do a little more than 5 minutes of searching to understand what all the commotion is about but I might be able to provide some context that would help. If you actually want to read all of this.
Let's take the essay she wrote on her website.
You can read that court case ruling and see examples of what comments Maya made, through tweets, slack, and otherwise. JK puts transphobic in quotes and words her comment in a way that is implying that she does not agree with that label. This example from the document is pretty on the nose though:
Then the essay says:
Magdalen Berns wasn't "a great believer in the importance of biological sex", she was openly transphobic and compared it to blackface.
So twice JK is defending clearly transphobic people and downplaying it to things like, oh they just tweeted something or just believed in biological sex (whatever that means) and were canceled by activists online.
Then later in the essay she says:
That does happen when there's an increase in awareness, access, and acceptance of something.
With this, JK is pushing the idea that trans people (especially teens) are confused, or are just following a trend, or being persuaded to be trans. Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria is a made up term implying people wake up one day and decide to be trans, minimizing what is, for many trans people, years of hiding their identity from their family and friends. The study she's mentioning from Lisa Littman did not involve trans people, and is actually only a survey of 256 parents of trans people. Here's a bit from the paper:
So she's basing this entire section of her essay on a survey of 256 parents from various groups online like the "Parents of transgender children" facebook group and making it seem like there's a trend of teens, again, waking up one day and deciding to be trans. This "republishing" that JK mentions made corrections to the paper and included an apology from the editor. But, JK represents it as just outrage from activists online.
Then she pulls out this classic:
No, you probably wouldn't have tried to transition to escape womanhood. Being a Trans Man is not some vacation from the struggles of being a woman. She even acknowledges some of their struggles later.
I'm going to quote another site I read for this one:
Then the meat and potatoes of this, natal women's safety:
Trans women have been using women's spaces for decades, this certificate process makes no difference. If this was going to be an issue it would've already been one by now. Instead she's fearmongering this idea that Men will all of a sudden with no other effort just claim to be a woman and start sexually assaulting women. The truth is trans women face many of the same threats of sexual violence and in JKs world they would have to use the same facilities as men.
This is, in part, why she's receiving all of the hate. Death threats and all of that are over the top but that's not an issue that's specific to her, people suck. However, despite the polite way she words everything, she defends other transphobic people and is pushing to deny trans people rights and healthcare in the interest of Women's safety using unfounded claims based on misinformation and bad data.
She said much worse, and even that statement is terrible because it translates to....
"I support Transpeople as long as they agree not to exist, because that makes my womanhood inherently less valuable."
She has also likened us to rapists and abusers, claiming that we are only "pretending" to be women to attack the "real" women
And I believe you were the first person to say anything about wanting her dead.
Read the title of the thread you're commenting in
Nope its just that. You for some reason seem to put it in the nicest light possible, but thats your perspective.
I think its easy enough to show how she is trying to actually harm certain people, which is absurd to worry about for a writer but here we are.
Nope. That's it. This is literally what people want her dead for.
Draw your own conclusion on who's crazy, but this is all she has ever expressed - that she takes pride/has suffered in being a woman, and also she is kinda gatekeeping the title and saying trans women don't know that suffering. Which is actually true when you think about it - trans women presumably grew up as boys, and were not forced to adhere to the womanly gender roles or told they would be shit at career x or y, were never afraid of being raped in a dark alley, were never afraid of how much they had to drink or if they left their drink unsupervised for a moment...
Of course trans people aren't getting the right treatment either, but all this lady has ever said is that her experience as a woman is fundamentally different from theirs, and wants it acknowledged that women have these issues. This is what everyone is attacking her for.
Here is a list. https://glaad.org/gap/jk-rowling/
The main problem, as I see it, is not that her literal statements if made policy would be the most extreme in today's overton window. The problem is that she's made herself the face of transphobia by putting herself in the center of it. She's taken her preexisting fame and used it to push her (admittedly not extreme) transphobia. When people say "name a transphobe," they think of her -- and this was her clear intention.
Because she has fame and power, she probably does the most direct damage to trans people overall. More than Jordan Peterson, etc.
Thank you for being the only person who actually answered my question. I appreciate your response.
You're welcome. I am disappointed by all the downvotes floating around. I feel like your question was sincere and my answer is the cleanest cut through the flak of all of these. A reminder to everyone: downvotes are not for disagreements.
The remarks she makes have actual political sway, especially in the UK. She often talks of how "young women" will be permanently deformed by HRT and how we must stop this threat to womanhood. Well, they recently banned puberty blockers there, and I am sure that her influence had a real effect here. Politicians don't just listen to other politicians.
Something else that I could mention is that despite being only like 50% extreme in what she is saying, she has written a book featuring a transvestite serial killer. On it's own, that wouldn't be so bad -- I mean, in fiction anyone is allowed to be a villain, not just cis straight white men -- but when combined with everything she's been doing with her anti-transgender activism, it's kind of telling that she has some actual hatred, it's not just polite logical arguments. It really makes you wonder what she isn't saying.
Here's a video on the topic:
https://youtu.be/7gDKbT_l2us?si=AdhUYzvPahT0gcRk
It's 3 years old, and a lot has happened since then, but I think it's still relevant.