this post was submitted on 04 Aug 2024
51 points (96.4% liked)

TechTakes

1373 readers
73 users here now

Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.

This is not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.

For actually-good tech, you want our NotAwfulTech community

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
dgerard@awful.systems
51
4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) (privacy.thenexus.today)
submitted 3 months ago by thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/techtakes@awful.systems
48 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

Feedback welcome! Here's the TL;DR list

  1. Listen more to more Black people
  2. Post less – and think before you post
  3. Call in, call out, and/or report anti-Blackness when you see it
  4. Support Black people and Black-led instances and projects

Other suggestions?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] anachronist@midwest.social 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Post less – and think before you post

Does the fediverse have a problem with too much posting? 🤔

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 31 points 3 months ago

Too much posting by racist assholes, for sure.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the second point is quite important, but I do suggest to OP to clarify. My take is that if all you've got about a social issue is some gut reaction, and that you're neither concerned nor learned on the subject, you could do worse than to shut up and listen. (And reading titles off some feed is not learning.)

Does the fediverse have a problem with too much posting? 🤔

There is more to a community than volume.

[–] thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thanks. The article discusses this some, including

If you're white, you're almost certainly not an expert on anti-Blackness – on the fediverse or more generally. This means that your initial thoughts and questions on this subject are almost certainly going to be things many others have said before. So even if they're good questions or ideas, they're not particularly helpful and (since many Black people hear the same thing again and again) may well be annoying. And very often they're not particularly good questions or ideas – or you'll express them in a way that contributes to the fediverse's anti-Blackness.

And then has several examples. That said, improvement is needed -- the text of the section doesn't completely align with the headline -- so suggestions welcome!

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The design of ActivityPub (or at least Mastodon) doesn't exactly help here either, given that you can't see most of the replies unless you click through to the original instance.

It's way too easy to leave a reply to a post without realizing that 30 other people have already said the exact same thing. So when I wan't to avoid being repetitive I have to remember to click through.

[–] thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago

Yep. It probably accentuates Reply Guy-ism too. The underlying issues are social; technology can make things worse. This article focuses on the social aspects but I talked about some of AP's issues in the "And it's about the protocol too" section of Steps towards a Safer Fediverse

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 6 points 3 months ago

Oh wait there's a link! I thought this was a self post. Sorry for that 😅