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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

We'll just do what trains do.

Replace the battery with a massive diesel generator. Run that to get power to the electric motors.

Best of both worlds!

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Electric vehicles a bad product for 95% of people right now. When is America just going to invest in public transportation.

Pouring billions of dollars widening highway widening projects and giving automotive companies a tax break to charge a premium on electric cars has always been idiotic.

Edit: I was never criticizing electric car owners nor do I care if it works for the specific use case of a small group of individuals. I'm glad some people are adopting a new technology for the sake of helping the environment(I don't care about individuals doing it for clout).

Most people can't even reasonably afford new cars and have an outlet to park next to at the end of the day so you're doing good so long as you plan to keep the car for at least 20,000 miles give or take to offset the carbon emissions of manufacturing the battery. Food and shelter is just more important.

Hybrids are a good stop gap until they dramatically improve battery technology and standardize parts. Plus there are plenty of used hybrids around and are just getting cheaper as more get released onto the market. Hybrids often get released at lower prices due to the cost of manufacturing battery packs.

The ability to reliably get to work and the super market shouldn't be restricted to the ones able to afford and maintain transportation but a basic right of all citizens.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you really believe that 95% of people live in the USA? Guess what, you're wrong. And for 95% of population electric cars are amazing.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We can be civil, no need to be combative for no reason. If you like electric cars that's fine, I like electric cars too but we don't all live in California.

Most people live in apartments here and the only charger available was closed down because maintenance and upkeep was too much for the community center that installed it.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't live in the US, but I do live in an apartment. There is a charger at my parking and plenty on the streets.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You live in the city? I'm just curious, I've noticed cities typically move much faster than small towns if at all. I think it's really cool you have that kind of luxury to be honest.

I live in a small town that tries to be modern but it often results in something like free wifi city wide that doesn't really work or a walking path that goes from an Indian park to the opposite side of town for some reason. The one charging station was one of those things that didn't work out but it was neat that they tried.

They are trying to lay optical fiber and trying to convince people to sign up, its super expensive compared to privately owned ISP's but better than coax I guess.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I live in a city. In London to be more specific. But on street charging options are growing fast all over the country, you can read more here and you can find a map with all the spots there as well https://www.zap-map.com/ev-guides/on-street-charging

The idea behind on street charging is that infrastructure is already there (lamp posts, etc), adding charging points is relatively cheap and that will generate additional income for the local councils. So it's a win-win for everyone.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

That's neat! I think having the ability to charge outside of your apartment/work would be a huge help for people interested. I still think public transportation, bike paths, and walking paths done right is better but cars that polute less is a good step towards the right direction.

It's personal preference but I still think hybrids and plugin hybrids are better for most people, at least until electric cars improve.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some trains. In most of Europe, trains are electric and get their power from overhead lines (same for trams and even some buses).

On the other hand, many large ships are diesel-electric. And those gigantic mining haulers as well.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

some buses

Trolleybus: when you need a cheap moustache ride.

[–] sudoku@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The way of Toyota hybrids! Though those can power wheels somewhat-directly too.

[–] Krtek@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

And almost fully do at highway speeds with how everything is geared

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Best of both worlds!

This is a joke, right? Efficiency is atrocious.

Hybrid cars were a topic in germany a few years ago. Laws provided funding for them too (grouped as EVs), despite their huge weight and low efficiency. I think it was solved since then?