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“They [execs] just overthink it,” Vaughn told host Sean Evans “And it’s like, it’s crazy, you get these rules, like, if you did geometry, and you said 87 degrees was a right angle, then all your answers are messed up, instead of 90 degrees. So there became some idea or concept, like, they would say something like, ‘You have to have an IP.’”

The Couples Retreat star proceeded to use the board game Battleship (which inspired the 2012 film of the same name) as a meaningless IP example, saying it became a “vehicle for storytelling” just because it had a recognizable name. However, he noted that the “IP” when he got his start in Hollywood was the shared life experiences people have, such as the plot of his 2003 movie Old School, which saw friends (Vaughn, Will Ferrell and Luke Wilson) returning to college when they’re older.

“The people in charge don’t want to get fired more so than they’re looking to do something great, so they want to kind of follow a set of rules that somehow get set in stone, that don’t really translate,” Vaughn continued. “But as long as they follow them, they’re not going to lose their job because they can say, ’Well, look, I made a movie off the board game Payday so even though the movie didn’t work, you can’t let me go, right?’”

But the Bad Monkey actor still has hope for the future and predicted that audiences would see more films similar to his R-rated comedies again.

“People want to laugh, people want to look at stuff that feels a little bit like it’s, you know, dangerous or pushing the envelope,” Vaughn explained. “I think you’re going to see more of it in the film space sooner than later, would be my guess.”

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[–] tetrachromacy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (17 children)

There's plenty of space for comedies that don't punch down or belittle people. The fact that nobody wants to roll the dice to see if they lose their jobs because Vince Vaughn's movies do that frequently shouldn't be a mark against their character. The fact that they are greedy movie execs with massive paychecks stolen from actors and studio crew should be.

[–] leisesprecher 19 points 1 month ago (16 children)

But where are those comedies?

Seriously, I can't recall any good recent comedy movie. Some good series, but that's it. All comedies are basically those "for the whole family" kind of background noise generator, and they all seem to be the same plot points and jokes sewn together in slightly different patterns.

Older comedies are often a bit dated, but were good back then, even without belittling. Look at Old School, Anchorman, Stranger than Fiction, everything Leslie Nielsen did, Big Lebowski. These are not super experimental art house movies or super edgy, but solid, innovative comedies.

Maybe I'm overlooking a ton of comedy gems, absolutely possible, but I can honestly say that not a single movie of the last years was really funny to me.

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stranger than Fiction is a fantastic example of a comedy that doesn't punch down at all. It's also just a great movie in general tbh.

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

But it's also an 18 year old movie, so it doesn't do much to disprove that good comedies don't get made any more.

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