this post was submitted on 02 Aug 2024
235 points (98.4% liked)

Ukraine

8306 readers
578 users here now

News and discussion related to Ukraine

*Sympathy for enemy combatants is prohibited.

*No content depicting extreme violence or gore.

*Posts containing combat footage should include [Combat] in title

*Combat videos containing any footage of a visible human must be flagged NSFW

Server Rules

  1. Remember the human! (no harassment, threats, etc.)
  2. No racism or other discrimination
  3. No Nazis, QAnon or similar
  4. No porn
  5. No ads or spam
  6. No content against Finnish law

Donate to support Ukraine's Defense

Donate to support Humanitarian Aid


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] aramis87@fedia.io 25 points 3 months ago (18 children)

I'm delighted we're sending these over to Ukraine (though it should have been done a long time ago).

Question: the F-16s are planes. Is there some reason we're loading them onto other planes for transport instead of flying them over?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

The maximum range for the F16 in "ferry" mode (max fuel, no weapons, pee before takeoff) is something like 4000km. The distance from Belfast (Maine) to Belfast (the original) is 4500km.

That would mean air to air refueling, which is expensive and risky. It would put major wear on the planes, which are not the newest to start with. And unlike the Antonov, the F16 comes with neither legroom nor bathrooms.

[–] Lupus 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

pee before takeoff)

Iirc the factor that limited early nuclear submarines the most from continuous dives was the toilets, they have limited storage for sewage and it turns out that draining those with a greater outside pressure is a pretty difficult task, at least if you want to stay undetected.

Now that they have figured that out the limiting factor is food.

[–] Sizzler@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You didn't explain how they sorted it out so I'm assuming compost toilets or some form of slow torpedo that makes it look like the sub is pooing.

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (15 replies)